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Old 06-15-2018, 12:06 AM
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Where is everyone ordering their Motul from?
Old 06-15-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Motul
Hello All,
Great thread and thank you to all of you who use Motul!

Just to clarify a few topics here:
- Motul was founded by Swan & Finch in the USA in 1853 and later became an independent lubricant manufacturer based in France (an ally in WW2) in 1932- that is where we continue to be headquartered today and have been ever since. Speaking of history, did you know Motul was the ever first multi-grade oil available? That goes for the first semi-synthetic and the first fully synthetic engine oil as well.

- The 300V engine oils have all the necessary detergents/dispersants etc as a regular service engine oil. We only recommend a shorter interval due to it being a motorsport/track product from a legal perspective. While it is our flagship-highest-
performing product, the 300V doesn't hold the Porsche A40 engine approval like the 8100 engine oils- 8100 X-cess 5W40 and 8100 X-max 0W40.

- 300V does have a high ZDDP additive package BUT we also use a unique ester group 5 synthetic base oil that has additional anti-wear properties vs common synthetics for added engine protection.

- Motul Sport 5W40, 5w50: This product is positioned between 8100 and 300V and is only available in 2 grades. It is a 100% synthetic oil w/ Ester where the 300V is 100% synthetic w/ EsterCore technology- a proprietary formula w/ a higher concentration of esters vs the Sport.

I hope this helps and please reach out to us if you have any questions in the future. - Nick
Thanks Nick! Great info and I appreciate you chiming into the thread. I truly hope my note about the history of Motul wasn't taken seriously. Perhaps the sarcasm was a bit too dry. I thought it would be taken more humorously, especially given the irony implied by the fact we're all owning Porsche 911s. Too soon?

Regardless, I'm happy to hear 300V is suitable for normal interval changes. The high zinc content is a strong benefit, I believe. Is there an issue with the 300V and emissions systems on the 997.1 turbo? I thought high ZDDP content can negatively impact emissions?

I've been buying Motul on Amazon. As I was pouring the 5litre bottle into my Mezger motor, I had visions of the product possibly being faked...made in some godawful animal processing plant in Nanching. Was this concern without merit? Is there a preferred source and can you give Rennlisters a discount? I suspect you'll see more 300v being sold to this crowd in the near future.

Thanks! And so glad to hear Motul is based the beautiful, freedom loving nation of our Allied Forces partner, France. We need to stock up now before we tariff the **** out of French motor oils!
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Motul
- Motul Sport 5W40, 5w50: This product is positioned between 8100 and 300V and is only available in 2 grades. It is a 100% synthetic oil w/ Ester where the 300V is 100% synthetic w/ EsterCore technology- a proprietary formula w/ a higher concentration of esters vs the Sport.
Ingredients aside, what are the real world benefits of going with 300V/Sport/8100? I care about my engine more than emissions, and don't run cats. I want to run the best I can for my application, and would appreciate clear direction on which this is.
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Originally Posted by nzskater
Ingredients aside, what are the real world benefits of going with 300V/Sport/8100? I care about my engine more than emissions, and don't run cats. I want to run the best I can for my application, and would appreciate clear direction on which this is.
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FWIW, when I switched from Mobil 1 to 8100, no more of the occasional smoke on startup. I also do not hear the noises when using Mobil 1.
Old 06-15-2018, 08:44 PM
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300V is NOT offered in a 0W50 or 5W50.. Please remember that 300V tends to run thin on the SAE scale vs Mobil or other oils. Guys that live in Hot zip codes or track the car should really look at the 5W50 SPORT.. Added insurance against SHEER.. We do not want our oils sheering into a 30 weight. If you feel good about running 5W40 300V, then just watch your HTHS values in your UOA report. And change the oil sooner vs later..

Check this thread out and the UOA on post 13...

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...tic-oil-2.html

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Old 06-16-2018, 01:42 AM
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Nick, ask your Chemist what ratio we need to get a 5W50 from the selection of 300V with a 8.5 quart fill. Motul should make a 0W50 or 5W50 300V.. We cannot RUN a 15W50 with our VANOS plus/valvetrain. We don't struggle with making with power in this engine. We struggle with sheer.
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Appreciate the info, but given this is a specific car model section, and so an application specific sub forum, I'd expect answers that suit. Recognise you need to be careful, but you're much more likely to move product if you give specific answers/feedback.

Kevin's questions related to shear are front of mind for all of us, particularly those that get out on the track. Does the Sport 5W50 product hold up well under track conditions? Or is it impacted as per your comment above? I'd like to try your product but not interested in ridiculous short oil replacement cycles.
Old 06-16-2018, 11:18 PM
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What about mixing 300v trophy 0w-40 w M1 5w-50?


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