Hunting for the right 911 Turbo
05-26-2018, 10:44 AM
#32
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Thanks everyone for the comments, seems upping the budget is the only way to get what I want or I'm just going to settle at this point.
I did miss the one about six months ago, black on black 17,000 miles, 6mt, adaptive, pccb's for 83k. Still kicking myself,
I did miss the one about six months ago, black on black 17,000 miles, 6mt, adaptive, pccb's for 83k. Still kicking myself,
05-26-2018, 11:19 AM
#33
If you up you budget to $80s, you will actually have more good cars to choose from.
05-26-2018, 11:53 AM
#34
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The .1 and .2 are really two different cars. We should not confuse it really. That is our biggest mistake.
The suspension, the pcm, the leather interior, the engine, the wheels.
Thats one of my points, we should not be comparing them as thesame because they are not. Porsche made it confusing that a 997.2 is higher output 997.1 when in fact they have 2 different engines. They did that transition to save cost.
And until 2017, the mezger was still the engine on the RSR. What sport car company has used part of the racing engine block on a street car for 30 years atleast. NONE. And it is expensive to make. And that is the reason my friends why the mezger is gone, it is just too expensive to produce.
I am not doubting the 9A1 as a good engine, but history will decide which will be more valuable for us all.
.1 is the last mezger turbo while .2 is the last manual turbo, atleast for now.
And if porsche changes its mind again and adds a manual option to a future 911 turbo, that title on the .2 is no more; but the .1 will still be the last mezger turbo forever.
https://rennlist.com/articles/porsch...mpaign=content
Nice reading if anyone is interested. Most notably is that the mezger is a true dry sump while a 9A1 is a hydrid. You pick which one you will value. There is reason why dry sump is preferred in racing, although you will see both dry and wet sump in the race track these days.
So that is why IMO, the only plus for a .2 is that it is the last turbo manual in a 997 body. The 997 body on a .2 is its main asset, not the engine.
The suspension, the pcm, the leather interior, the engine, the wheels.
Thats one of my points, we should not be comparing them as thesame because they are not. Porsche made it confusing that a 997.2 is higher output 997.1 when in fact they have 2 different engines. They did that transition to save cost.
And until 2017, the mezger was still the engine on the RSR. What sport car company has used part of the racing engine block on a street car for 30 years atleast. NONE. And it is expensive to make. And that is the reason my friends why the mezger is gone, it is just too expensive to produce.
I am not doubting the 9A1 as a good engine, but history will decide which will be more valuable for us all.
.1 is the last mezger turbo while .2 is the last manual turbo, atleast for now.
And if porsche changes its mind again and adds a manual option to a future 911 turbo, that title on the .2 is no more; but the .1 will still be the last mezger turbo forever.
https://rennlist.com/articles/porsch...mpaign=content
Nice reading if anyone is interested. Most notably is that the mezger is a true dry sump while a 9A1 is a hydrid. You pick which one you will value. There is reason why dry sump is preferred in racing, although you will see both dry and wet sump in the race track these days.
So that is why IMO, the only plus for a .2 is that it is the last turbo manual in a 997 body. The 997 body on a .2 is its main asset, not the engine.
05-27-2018, 11:37 PM
#35
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I purchased my car because it was the right color combo I wanted and checked off almost every box on the options list that I wanted, and most importantly the price was totally reasonable. The mileage was what most on here would consider high at 48k but it only had 2 previous owners and is under CPO until February of '19, and it came with a complete service history. It is a 997.2 but I didn't have a preference of .1 versus .2 nor did I even think about future resale value because I was looking for MY car which will be one that I drive, enjoy, and will stay with me for many years. Find the right car for you, purchase it, enjoy it, and don't worry about it being the "perfect" resale vehicle 10 years from now.
05-28-2018, 09:41 AM
#37
Take the ninety and split into 40/50. Dump 50k into alibaba and the 40k as down payment on a 09.
05-28-2018, 09:45 AM
#38
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05-28-2018, 11:34 AM
#40
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05-28-2018, 11:56 AM
#41
We are witnessing the transition of a 997 TT to a much more special segment of the porsche community.
I am one of those that believe that the 997, especially the TT, would go down in porsche history as the best water cooled 911 ever. Being that it is different than a GT3 or RS, it will hold its own on value.
The GT3 and RS value are dependent on each other.
People are noticing the special machine that a 997 TT is. They dont make them like they used too and porsche placed a mark on it as one of the last with a racing DNA on it. LIke the 997 GT3 and 997 RS.
People are paying good money now for 80-100 for a 997 TT and dealers are grabbing the good ones and cant hold with the demand.
Make a picking and you will own a special car for years to come. Dont fret pricing, it will take care of its own. You can be assured in 5-10 years, you will can sell it how much you bought it if you take care of it.
05-28-2018, 04:19 PM
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OP..did you get my emails and did you send him an email??
I still haven't heard back from the vmail I left him.
I still haven't heard back from the vmail I left him.
05-29-2018, 01:36 AM
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05-29-2018, 02:36 AM
#44
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Yes that was a miss. You will find one. I think mid 80s is right spot.
05-29-2018, 10:31 AM
#45
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Option for option, IMO no. But people can afford the price difference.
We are witnessing the transition of a 997 TT to a much more special segment of the porsche community.
I am one of those that believe that the 997, especially the TT, would go down in porsche history as the best water cooled 911 ever. Being that it is different than a GT3 or RS, it will hold its own on value.
The GT3 and RS value are dependent on each other.
People are noticing the special machine that a 997 TT is. They dont make them like they used too and porsche placed a mark on it as one of the last with a racing DNA on it. LIke the 997 GT3 and 997 RS.
People are paying good money now for 80-100 for a 997 TT and dealers are grabbing the good ones and cant hold with the demand.
Make a picking and you will own a special car for years to come. Dont fret pricing, it will take care of its own. You can be assured in 5-10 years, you will can sell it how much you bought it if you take care of it.
We are witnessing the transition of a 997 TT to a much more special segment of the porsche community.
I am one of those that believe that the 997, especially the TT, would go down in porsche history as the best water cooled 911 ever. Being that it is different than a GT3 or RS, it will hold its own on value.
The GT3 and RS value are dependent on each other.
People are noticing the special machine that a 997 TT is. They dont make them like they used too and porsche placed a mark on it as one of the last with a racing DNA on it. LIke the 997 GT3 and 997 RS.
People are paying good money now for 80-100 for a 997 TT and dealers are grabbing the good ones and cant hold with the demand.
Make a picking and you will own a special car for years to come. Dont fret pricing, it will take care of its own. You can be assured in 5-10 years, you will can sell it how much you bought it if you take care of it.
