Notices
997 Turbo Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cool Down

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-25-2018, 04:55 PM
  #1  
TBarrow
Racer
Thread Starter
 
TBarrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cypress, Texas
Posts: 363
Received 29 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Cool Down

I have read nothing in the manual about this. I have always preferred to not just shut a car down after a spirited drive. What is recommended? They say that idling is not good for the motor but upon returning home I let it idle for about a minute and a half until the rear hood fan turned off.
Old 03-25-2018, 05:04 PM
  #2  
bondjockey
Racer
 
bondjockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Hotlanta
Posts: 415
Received 57 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Generally people recommend that you let the car idle for a minute of so after a really spirited drive. The VTG turbos run very hot and it supposedly is good for the turbos to let them bleed off a little heat. It is pretty rare for me to drive it like a bat out of hell and then immediately stop and turn it off (I don't track it). By the time I hit a few stop lights and come to a stop at my house or elsewhere it has cooled off sufficiently.
Old 03-25-2018, 05:06 PM
  #3  
Catorce
Banned
 
Catorce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Orange County
Posts: 1,609
Received 73 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

No cool down necessary. This procedure originated in the 930 days - the turbos back then were only oil cooled. Today they are both oil and water cooled and there is an automatic fan that comes on as much as half an hour after running the car, which you guys all know.
Old 03-25-2018, 05:06 PM
  #4  
Big Swole
Rennlist Member
 
Big Swole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Metro Atlanta, GA area
Posts: 7,059
Received 2,012 Likes on 1,262 Posts
Default

Any turbo car / truck can benefit from letting it cool and cycle "cooled" oil through it after a hard run. Hence the advent of "Turbo Timers".

Never shut a turbo vehicle off directly after a hard run.
Old 03-25-2018, 05:26 PM
  #5  
A418t81
Rennlist Member
 
A418t81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Alabama
Posts: 794
Received 199 Likes on 106 Posts
Default

Though water cooled turbos are cooled passively by convection after shut down, it’s never a bad idea to drive the last couple of miles easily and allow everything to cool off ahead of time. Idling the car for a minute or two once you stop is just fine too, but driving the car also allows the brakes to cool down as well, which helps with uneven pad transfer to the rotors once you’ve stopped.
Old 03-25-2018, 05:26 PM
  #6  
512bb
Drifting
 
512bb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,195
Received 32 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

I generally take a few minutes to drive the car around at around 25-40 MPH and a maybe 30 seconds before turning it off. In this way the oil is recirculated and cooled down to a point that it can be shut off. That is assuming that the oil/water temperatures are around normal high. If at track or spirited drive and oil/water temperatures are in the 200's then longer cool down drive before shutting off.

The fan on top does nothing to cool the engine down and it is to keep the power steering, alternator cooled down as they will get crazy hot with a hot engine sitting right underneath them. BTW, it doesn't draw air out it pulls it in.
Old 03-25-2018, 06:22 PM
  #7  
thxbuff2001
Drifting
 
thxbuff2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2,193
Received 57 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

It has a fan that turns on even when off. It will do it itself. I dont let it idle after a run.
Old 03-25-2018, 06:39 PM
  #8  
AreaOne
Advanced
 
AreaOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 80
Received 20 Likes on 6 Posts
Default


Old 03-25-2018, 06:58 PM
  #9  
lliejk
Three Wheelin'
 
lliejk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Exton, PA
Posts: 1,377
Received 389 Likes on 275 Posts
Default

One of the issues with my old Audi S6 were tiny cracks in the heads of the AAN turbo's. Even though there was an afterrun pump that would circulate the coolant, the intense heat left in an engine run hard and shut down could lead to those cracks. So, with any turbo I have driven, from my son's 1.8, through the AAN to the 911 TT, I always drive it lightly for a few miles before shutting it down.

While I have never heard of cracked heads in a 997, there is no reason to mistreat machinery.

Ed
Old 03-25-2018, 08:06 PM
  #10  
Big Swole
Rennlist Member
 
Big Swole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Metro Atlanta, GA area
Posts: 7,059
Received 2,012 Likes on 1,262 Posts
Default

2 mins is a small investment into the longevity of your turbos / engine.


Period!!
Old 03-25-2018, 08:29 PM
  #11  
HenryPcar
Three Wheelin'
 
HenryPcar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,967
Received 233 Likes on 168 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Catorce
No cool down necessary. This procedure originated in the 930 days - the turbos back then were only oil cooled. Today they are both oil and water cooled and there is an automatic fan that comes on as much as half an hour after running the car, which you guys all know.
Not to mention, synthetic oils nowadays have a lot higher flash point than the old dynasaur motor oils.
Old 03-25-2018, 08:51 PM
  #12  
Kevin
Addict
Rennlist Member


Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Kevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northwest
Posts: 9,305
Received 305 Likes on 211 Posts
Default

As mentioned the bearing housings are water-cooled. However the VNT turbine housings aren't >>I am seeing cracking from the EGT sensor in towards the center of the housing. The bearings housing VNT lever/bushing area is also cracking due to extreme heat and hot shutdowns. The water cooling protects the bearings and turbine wheel, but the turbine side seals are taking a beating.

I'd recommend at least 30 to 45 seconds of cool down idle. At the end of the day, you question what the previous owners did.. A 60 to 130 pull and a quick gas fill up with the engine shut off at the pump LOL
Old 03-25-2018, 10:53 PM
  #13  
thxbuff2001
Drifting
 
thxbuff2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2,193
Received 57 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

When i am about to arrive at home, I start to get the my area, 45 mph, then 25 mph. Thats about 1-2 miles. Thats enough cooling. I wont intentionally let it idle in my garage.

Unless some of you guys use it on track or live besides the free way.

Old 03-26-2018, 01:59 AM
  #14  
996pp
Burning Brakes
 
996pp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Glendale CA
Posts: 971
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Same here. I don't idle but drive very lightly last 1-2 miles before getting home without getting the turbo's to do any boost. Now that i think about it does oil and coolant still circulate through even if the turbos are not boosting? Sorry if its a stupid question as i don't know much about turbos, i just love how they plant you into the seat.

Last edited by 996pp; 03-26-2018 at 03:03 AM.
Old 03-26-2018, 02:36 PM
  #15  
Big Swole
Rennlist Member
 
Big Swole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Metro Atlanta, GA area
Posts: 7,059
Received 2,012 Likes on 1,262 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 996pp
Does oil and coolant still circulate through even if the turbos are not boosting? Sorry if its a stupid question as i don't know much about turbos, i just love how they plant you into the seat.

Yes it does. So driving easy for last few miles before shut down works well.



Quick Reply: Cool Down



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:53 AM.