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Soul Performance 01-15-2018 03:45 PM

SOUL | 997.1 Turbo Exhaust Suite
 



DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING: We wanted to get as aggressive as possible while minimizing drone – greater volume with a greater amount of pops and burbles on deceleration. Support for high power was another consideration – necessitating 3″ tubing. We experimented with adding a mixing chamber into our X-pipe design. Analysis in 3D CAD software showed a general increase in velocity gained downstream of the mixing chamber across a band of measured pressure and temperature levels. This produces optimal flow characteristics, reduced backpressure for higher HP, and enhances the sound quality of the system.The 997 Turbo is very prone to drone when you start to uncork it. For our Sport variant, HJS HD 200 cell catalysts do a great job at keeping the sound level and quality at a reserved and refined tone - definitely daily driveable. Once we removed the cats for a Competition version, drone was present in the 2,000 - 3,000 RPM range by a fair amount. We tested out different resonator types, amounts (0, 2, and 4) and found best results with 4 resonators. We even tried to use rubber isolators to reduce drone but the effect was not noticeable.


We pushed on and added helmholtz resonators using calculations to specifically target droning further in the lower RPM's where it is most pronounced. They proved to be quite effective - greatly cutting down on drone as intended. The final result is a car that has a great tone with an acceptable level of in cabin presence - drone is still present at low RPM to a degree but this IS a catless race exhaust.




CONSTRUCTION: Each exhaust is made from mandrel bent T304L 3″ .065″ wall stainless steel tubing, straight through race resonators with a full metal packing design for maximum durability, and laser cut brackets for perfect fitment. Choose from several hand finished tip options to get the look that suits your 991 the best – or reuse your factory tips. Mikalor Supra Heavy-Duty Clamps are included to securely hold our tips onto the system.


HJS CATALYSTS: The highest quality catalytic converters available, known for their industry leading flow and durability. They are efficient enough to meet strict EURO 4 emission standards while still allowing for an increase in flow – all without a check engine light. The HD design uses premium triple foil winding for maximum strength. The brazing stripe is an extra feature in the interest of durability – it prevents the core from moving or experiencing any damage from sustained high horsepower abuse. We use a large and appropriately sized catalyst to allow for maximum gains – no compromises here!

POWER: SOUL is seeking a 997.1 owner to participate in third party dyno testing with all costs covered by us to provide full power numbers on all configurations - please contact is if you are interested.


WEIGHTS: The Competition exhaustweighs approximately 16.2 lbs / 7.3 kg less than factory exhaust components (28.8 lbs vs 45 lbs) while the Sport exhaust weighs approximately 10.8 lbs / 4.9 kg less than factory exhaust components (34.2 lbs vs 45 lbs).

CHECK ENGINE LIGHT?: Expect no CEL with our catted Sport X-Pipe Exhaust System. Catless, most likely, but chances can be reduced with our catted O2 spacers.





LIFETIME WARRANTY: Enjoy your Soul exhaust components with confidence on both the street and track as they are covered by our Lifetime Warranty! Our team will quickly work with you to resolve any issues or answer any questions that you may have.
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IN STOCK AND READY TO SHIP!
Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System Sport X-Pipe Exhaust System GT2 Style Bolt On Exhaust Tips
Contact us any time with questions, customization requests, to order, or find your nearest SOUL dealer / installer
Email: info@soulpp.com
Phone: 855-486-1400
IG: @soulperformanceproducts









atcbi5 01-15-2018 04:13 PM

Very nice touch on the resonator. I had a competitors X-pipe exhaust with with 200 cell cats and got rid of it because of the drone. Annoying as hell. Great work! Good luck with sales.

Soul Performance 01-15-2018 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by atcbi5 (Post 14732552)
Very nice touch on the resonator. I had a competitors X-pipe exhaust with with 200 cell cats and got rid of it because of the drone. Annoying as hell. Great work! Good luck with sales.

Thank you! It's a shame they do drone so much. We'll continue experimenting when possible with new techniques and materials to try and cut it down further.

-Mike

bijanmaleki 01-16-2018 06:34 PM

Sounds interesting on the testing, email sent.

Tombstone4478 02-10-2018 04:57 AM

Email sent

Soul Performance 02-12-2018 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by AC SATCO (Post 14790894)
Email sent

We're going to get your system out the door ASAP, Adam! Thanks for reaching out!

-Mike S

Soul Performance 07-10-2018 05:12 PM

Get a quality exhaust in less than a week - we're ready to ship! Catted, catless, we're here to upgrade your 911!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...HJS-Detail.jpg

TT Surgeon 07-16-2018 11:15 PM

Really nice lookIng/sounding system.

Soul Performance 07-16-2018 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by TT Surgeon (Post 15146231)
Really nice lookIng/sounding system.

Thank you!

thxbuff2001 07-17-2018 12:31 PM

Can you use the OEM tailpipes?

realking 07-17-2018 12:35 PM

Thanks for taking us through the process...sweet!

Soul Performance 07-17-2018 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by thxbuff2001 (Post 15147138)
Can you use the OEM tailpipes?

You can use the OEM tips or any tips that mate up in a similar fashion.


Originally Posted by realking (Post 15147152)
Thanks for taking us through the process...sweet!

My pleasure!

Soul Performance 09-11-2018 06:00 PM

GT2 Style Tips fabricated and ready to be finished to your specs. Signature satin? Brushed? Satin black? Custom logo? No Logo? We'll finish them how you like them.

http://soulpp.com/wp-content/uploads...abrication.jpg

thxbuff2001 09-11-2018 06:21 PM

can you pm me pricing.

Soul Performance 09-11-2018 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by thxbuff2001 (Post 15282641)
can you pm me pricing.

Happy to do so, PM incoming with discount Rennlist pricing

usrodeo4 09-11-2018 07:18 PM

Love the GT2 style tips...I have been looking for them...unfortunately I may be putting your tips on my new Europipe stage 2 exhaust system I just ordered, I really think their sound is a step above anything I have heard not to mention with only .12 bar back pressure (with 6 inch 100 cell cats) they flow quite well. I wish you nothing but the best with sales though.

realking 09-11-2018 07:34 PM

The GT2 tips from Soul Performance fit my 997.2 Europipe perfectly. I would expect the same fitment for your 997.1 Europipe...but, I should let the experts chime in....

Soul Performance 09-12-2018 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by usrodeo4 (Post 15282792)
Love the GT2 style tips...I have been looking for them...unfortunately I may be putting your tips on my new Europipe stage 2 exhaust system I just ordered, I really think their sound is a step above anything I have heard not to mention with only .12 bar back pressure (with 6 inch 100 cell cats) they flow quite well. I wish you nothing but the best with sales though.

Thank you! We recognize that we are one of many options and we're happy at the chance to have our tips on your Turbo! Please let me know if you have any questions.


Originally Posted by realking (Post 15282834)
The GT2 tips from Soul Performance fit my 997.2 Europipe perfectly. I would expect the same fitment for your 997.1 Europipe...but, I should let the experts chime in....

Thank you! :thumbup:

997.1TT 09-12-2018 04:17 PM

Test car
 
Are you still looking for a 997 turbo to test your exhaust on ?

Soul Performance 09-12-2018 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by 997.1TT (Post 15285140)
Are you still looking for a 997 turbo to test your exhaust on ?

Testing is complete, but we're always looking for someone willing to give feedback and share their experience.

Johnny DB 09-13-2018 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by realking (Post 15282834)
The GT2 tips from Soul Performance fit my 997.2 Europipe perfectly. I would expect the same fitment for your 997.1 Europipe...but, I should let the experts chime in....

They won't fit. The stock exhaust tips get modified from 60mm diameter to 76mm diameter for the EP2.

Johnny DB 09-18-2018 04:18 PM

SOUL, would you make some in 76mm?

cjcam930 09-18-2018 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Johnny DB (Post 15299891)
SOUL, would you make some in 76mm?

I may be interested as well; also for EP2

Soul Performance 09-19-2018 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Johnny DB (Post 15287356)
They won't fit. The stock exhaust tips get modified from 60mm diameter to 76mm diameter for the EP2.

It seems totally possible but I would love to see an example of the tips they modify.

Soul Performance 09-24-2018 05:45 PM

We've got a set of PVD coated tips in from the coater with more to follow!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...ck-Product.jpg

realking 09-25-2018 11:18 AM

Anxious to see more finishes. Keep 'em coming!

Nate2046 09-29-2018 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Soul Performance (Post 15282644)
Happy to do so, PM incoming with discount Rennlist pricing

Can you PM me with pricing for a set of tips in satin finish please? Thanks


Soul Performance 10-01-2018 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Nate2046 (Post 15326183)
Can you PM me with pricing for a set of tips in satin finish please? Thanks

PM sent!

Soul Performance 10-04-2018 11:01 AM

Bolt-On Tips installed in our brushed finish:

http://soulpp.com/wp-content/uploads...rushedtips.jpg

FirstStateCamber 10-04-2018 02:44 PM

Great work as always SOUL! As a fabricator I can appreciate the fit and finish I have personally seen on your products.

Soul Performance 10-04-2018 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by FirstStateCamber (Post 15337397)
Great work as always SOUL! As a fabricator I can appreciate the fit and finish I have personally seen on your products.

Thank you so much! :cheers:

Soul Performance 11-01-2018 02:02 PM

We've been experimenting with special edition tip options - what do you think? What colors do YOU want?

http://soulpp.com/wp-content/uploads...11/PVDtips.jpg

Ruskiy 11-03-2018 02:46 PM

Did you guys ever find a fix for tips melting plastic on 997.1 bumper due to motor flex under hard accel? If that’s even a thing, but I do recall reading that somewhere.

realking 11-03-2018 06:55 PM

Have you made any progress towards a silver or aluminum tip? I'm being patient while waiting with my heat burnished, gold colored brushed aluminum Soul GT2 tips...for my arctic silver 997.2 TT, silver > gold...

Soul Performance 11-05-2018 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Ruskiy (Post 15406630)
Did you guys ever find a fix for tips melting plastic on 997.1 bumper due to motor flex under hard accel? If that’s even a thing, but I do recall reading that somewhere.

To our knowledge this was an isolated incident. If this is a concern, we can have the tips ceramic coated by Jet-Hot which offers a reduction in surface temperatures. The tips are coated on both the interior and exterior to lock in heat.


Originally Posted by realking (Post 15406972)
Have you made any progress towards a silver or aluminum tip? I'm being patient while waiting with my heat burnished, gold colored brushed aluminum Soul GT2 tips...for my arctic silver 997.2 TT, silver > gold...

We've got several "silver" tips being heat tested at this very moment with that goal in mind!

realking 11-05-2018 03:33 PM

Thanks for the update John!

Soul Performance 11-05-2018 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by realking (Post 15410637)
Thanks for the update John!

One finish failed miserably...but is quite nice to look at...

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...dfdabbc37b.jpg
-Mike

realking 11-05-2018 04:41 PM

Very ricey and not quite what I was looking for, LOL! :roflmao:

Soul Performance 11-05-2018 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by realking (Post 15410817)
Very ricey and not quite what I was looking for, LOL! :roflmao:

That's why we test, test, and test some more. :)

-Mike

Soul Performance 12-26-2018 12:05 PM

We still have black tips ready to ship, bolt them onto your existing system or pair them with a SOUL exhaust! If you have any questions about our components please let us know!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...ck-Product.jpg

lflouie 02-11-2019 02:00 PM

Tips wo/logo
 
Looking for a set of your GT2 tips in Satin finish for my stock 997tt, but either without a logo or with Porsche lettering. Plus advise price and availability.

thanks!

Soul Performance 02-11-2019 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by lflouie (Post 15631337)
Looking for a set of your GT2 tips in Satin finish for my stock 997tt, but either without a logo or with Porsche lettering. Plus advise price and availability.

thanks!

We can do that : ) Below is a link to our GT2 style tips for the 997.1TT or 997.2TT depending on the year of your car. Just select the Signature Satin Finish, and in the notes request No SOUL Logo. The price would be $295 for the set. I'll take care of it when the order comes through, and we can have them shipped out within 24-48hrs. If you'd prefer not to use the website, just give me a call at 484 883 6197 and I'll take your order directly.

997.1
https://soulpp.com/product/porsche-9...-bolt-on-tips/

997.2
https://soulpp.com/product/porsche-997-2-turbo-gt2-style-bolt-on-exhaust-tips/


- John Gaydos

JOEL PENALOSA 03-03-2019 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by thxbuff2001 (Post 15282641)
can you pm me pricing.

I can you pm me your current price for the catted with double tip

Soul Performance 03-03-2019 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by JOEL PENALOSA (Post 15677023)

I can you pm me your current price for the catted with double tip

sure thing Joel 👍

Soul Performance 03-03-2019 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by JOEL PENALOSA (Post 15677023)

I can you pm me your current price for the catted with double tip

Joel it doesn’t seem you have enough posts yet to send a PM. Please shoot me an email to johng@soulpp.com or a text to 484 883 6197 and we can take things from there. Thank you for the interest :)

Soul Performance 07-11-2019 06:49 PM

Two fresh sets of tips out of our custom shop to give you an idea of available options - Satin black PVD coated tips with a custom GT3 logo and gold PVD coated Cayman tips. Feel free to choose your logo and finish with our tips!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...947778C3A.jpeg

-Mike

Soul Performance 07-31-2019 03:16 PM

George is hard at work building a Sport X-Pipe Exhaust System! His talents with his hands don’t end there - he’s also our head mechanic and avid drag racer with a 700+ hp Camaro. Between our thick gauge aluminum fixtures and his skilled touch you can be sure your system will fit!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload.../07/george.jpg

-Mike

Soul Performance 09-27-2019 05:37 PM

Here are some pictures of a Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System that we've almost finished, it just needs our signature satin finish (which you can read more about here). George laid down some great back purged welds (which you can read more about here).

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...abrication.jpg

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...Comparison.jpg

-Mike

Pdtp#16 10-14-2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Soul Performance (Post 16133040)
Here are some pictures of a Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System that we've almost finished, it just needs our signature satin finish (which you can read more about here). George laid down some great back purged welds (which you can read more about here).

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...abrication.jpg

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...Comparison.jpg

-Mike


What is the T - like attachment to the cat pipes for?

Soul Performance 10-14-2019 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Pdtp#16 (Post 16166844)
What is the T - like attachment to the cat pipes for?

They are helmholtz resonators designed to reduce droning and are quite effective.

-Mike

Soul Performance 11-04-2019 11:19 AM

In the process of packing up a Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System! We foam pack everything to make sure it arrives in perfect condition, regardless of where in the world it's destined to go.

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...oam-Packed.jpg

-Mike

Soul Performance 11-11-2019 03:42 PM

Our GT2 style tips match the GT2 rear bumper on this 997.1 Turbo quite well!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...034e7e65af.jpg

-Mike

Pasha911 11-22-2019 10:24 PM

Hello,

Can you send me pricing for 997.1 turbo shipped to 28110? Also any special pricing with black Friday around the corner?

Soul Performance 11-25-2019 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Pasha911 (Post 16247547)
Hello,

Can you send me pricing for 997.1 turbo shipped to 28110? Also any special pricing with black Friday around the corner?

PM sent, thanks for asking :cheers:

Regards,
John Gaydos

lawsat 11-25-2019 11:08 PM

Hi, can you send me the price shipped to 94404? for a 997.2 turbo. Thank you

Soul Performance 11-26-2019 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by lawsat (Post 16252852)
Hi, can you send me the price shipped to 94404? for a 997.2 turbo. Thank you

PM sent!

-Mike

Soul Performance 01-17-2020 12:16 PM

A SOUL Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System in the wild:


-Mike

997.1TTblucab 02-09-2020 09:13 PM

Please send me pricing for 997.1tt shipping to 46383. Thanks!

Soul Performance 02-10-2020 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by 997.1TTblucab (Post 16411036)
Please send me pricing for 997.1tt shipping to 46383. Thanks!

Will do, PM sent for more details :cheers:

Regards,
John Gaydos

964TURBOCHAS 02-10-2020 12:06 PM

same here shipped to 44704 (2011 997.2tt)

Soul Performance 02-10-2020 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by 964TURBOCHAS (Post 16411913)
same here shipped to 44704 (2011 997.2tt)

PM on it's way, thanks for asking : )

Regards,
John Gaydos

Soul Performance 02-19-2020 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by 997.1TTblucab (Post 16411036)
Please send me pricing for 997.1tt shipping to 46383. Thanks!

If you're interested in a lightly used system (couple hundred miles), shoot me over a PM I have one available :cheers:

Best regards,
John Gaydos

Soul Performance 03-17-2020 04:25 PM

Here's a set of our satin black GT2 style tips that have been freshly coated with a high heat ceramic clear coat to keep them looking cleaner for longer.

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...-Product-2.jpg

Interested in a set? Shoot us a message for Rennlist pricing!

-Mike

Soul Performance 04-08-2020 11:22 AM

Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System install by our dealer Block A Chip:


-Mike

Soul Performance 05-28-2020 04:57 PM

Adam is stocking the shelves with raw materials to keep your orders coming! Let us know if you have any questions as driving season progresses!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...cts-Piping.jpg

-Mike

powdrhound 05-28-2020 07:00 PM

Really nice exhaust offering guys! Well done. What diameter are the single GT2 tips?

Soul Performance 05-29-2020 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by powdrhound (Post 16662655)
Really nice exhaust offering guys! Well done. What diameter are the single GT2 tips?

Thank you! The GT2 tips are 3.5" outer diameter.

-Mike

facenick 06-29-2020 09:10 AM

I am interested for your Brushed GT2 style tips for my 997.1TT and I wanted to ask:
1. The tips are a direct fit for the stock exhaust?
2. Is it possible to order the tips without the logo?

3. Can I install the tips without removing the rear bumper?

Thanks in advance.

Soul Performance 06-29-2020 02:36 PM

Yes, Yes, and Yes : ) For the logo, just mention that and my name in the notes section during checkout and I'll take care of it for you. Otherwise please feel free to email me at johng@soulpp.com or Whatsapp at 14848836197 and we can work out the details from there :cheers:

Best regards,
John Gaydos

Soul Performance 07-23-2020 02:13 PM

Here's Matt finishing up a Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...rication-2.jpg

-Mike

ky13 07-23-2020 04:40 PM

Please send a quote (997.1 turbo completely catless) shipped to 25414. Thanks!

Pasha911 07-25-2020 11:04 PM

Love this exhaust! I have it on my turbo.

Can you please PM me a price on a set of tips shipped to 28110. Maybe Matt black with "turbo" lettering?

Soul Performance 07-27-2020 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Pasha911 (Post 16799511)
Love this exhaust! I have it on my turbo.

Can you please PM me a price on a set of tips shipped to 28110. Maybe Matt black with "turbo" lettering?

Glad to hear it! PM incoming! Just so everyone knows, we can do custom lettering and logos! On signature satin and brushed finishes it does not add to lead time. For our satin black tips, it could take up to a month to get the tips coated as we do our PVD tips in batches.

-Mike

Soul Performance 08-14-2020 06:05 PM

A 997.1 Turbo Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System being prepared for shipment (catless pipes not pictured). Side note - The green door and fender off in the background are from John B's old 944 race car.

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...rication-3.jpg

-Mike

Ruskiy 08-16-2020 12:15 AM

SOUL Staff,

Is it possible to achieve stock/OEM/refined like quietness during light throttle cruise operation, similar to Kline Innovation's smaller diameter exhaust system while retaining really pronounced turbo spool sound like Europipe has?

Kline is attractive as it sounds refined but not very Turbo-ish where Europipe is too boomy for me however spool sound is intoxicating.

I understand that I might be asking for a lot here.

Many Thanks,
Dmitriy

Soul Performance 08-18-2020 05:27 PM

Dmitriy, thank you for asking, I'll do my best to answer your question. You're asking for both quietness and selective loudness from a non-valved system which is a challenge. Our main focus was on reducing drone as much as possible while still offering an authoritative exhaust note. It's very easy to uncork this platform and introduce drone, I'd say that mitigating it is the overall goal for the 996 / 997.1 Turbos. We're using 3" tubing through most of the system which will lend to a more aggressive and deeper sound. Our x-pipe design and quad resonators prevent a booming exhaust note inside the cabin but there is certainly a good presence to let you know you're driving a high performance machine. The Competition system incorporates anti-drone tubes to compensate for the lack of sound attenuation that the cats offer - specifically in the 2,0000-3,000 rpm range. You will not experience an OEM like quietness off throttle even with these provisions as we chose larger piping and introducing an aggressive note without it being too aggressive. One can expect great sounds from the turbos (which we felt was mandatory) with a good tone - while not as high-pitched as smaller diameter systems - but intoxicating none the less. We didn't want to error on the side of offering an exhaust that would be too quiet or "boring", one that would not support decent power levels, or be so loud as to be only for hardcore enthusiasts.

We invite anyone considering our systems to call us for a chat that can be as quick or as in-depth as you want to make sure we can meet your needs and expectations. You're spending a lot of money to enhance a prized possession and you should get what you want, and even if it's not a SOUL component we'll point you in the right direction. We're a customer service company that also builds exhausts, take advantage of us!

Here's Nick finishing up the cat bypass sections of the Competition System I posted earlier:

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...rication-4.jpg
https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...n-Detail-4.jpg
https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...n-Detail-3.jpg
https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...n-Detail-2.jpg

-Mike

Soul Performance 12-08-2020 02:46 PM

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...2TurboComp.jpg

Want to see behind the scenes as our components are built? Check out our SOUL In The Shop Instagram account here.

-Mike

Soul Performance 02-11-2021 12:25 PM

@911turbo_mike 997.1 Turbo with SOUL Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System. A bold sound for a beautiful car.
-Mike

Soul Performance 03-01-2021 04:04 PM

Wrapping up another Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System for our dealer TuneRS Motorsports!

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...rication-5.jpg

-Mike

arscottp 03-01-2021 07:22 PM

I love the quality of your products.
I'd be curious to know what frequency you're trying to reduce with such small resonators. Do you have any calcs to share? Or before and after sound tests?

Soul Performance 03-02-2021 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by arscottp (Post 17266761)
I love the quality of your products.
I'd be curious to know what frequency you're trying to reduce with such small resonators. Do you have any calcs to share? Or before and after sound tests?

Thank you! To quote myself in the original post:

"Once we removed the cats for a Competition version, drone was present in the 2,000 - 3,000 RPM range by a fair amount. We tested out different resonator types, amounts (0, 2, and 4) and found best results with 4 resonators. We even tried to use rubber isolators to reduce drone but the effect was not noticeable."

Sorry but we don't share how we achieve our results as it gives away a competitive advantage. The calculations are rough and manual testing is needed as a lot can change depending on where the drone tubes originate on the system and different variations further upstream influence the effect as well. We tend to not record the results as it's hard to detect drone in a quantifiable amount unless we got surgical with the recording process (constant gain mic, same exact road and weather conditions).

https://soulpp.com/wp-content/upload...etubenotes.jpg

Here is an example of notes from the extended development of our 991.2 Carrera base non-PSE rear exhaust. This is John Gaydos' personal notes of where and how much "drone" was experienced in the cabin through various setups during test driving. We took the opportunity to experiment with different locations of the origin of piping along with different lengths. As you can see the results can vary widely depending on these factors. When you see anti-drone tubes on our systems - know we put extensive testing into ensuring they are effective.

As it pertains to the quality of sound, anti-drone tubes are great at removing drone while retaining volume and "sharpness". Resonators cut down on negative qualities such as rasp and overall reduce sound volume, we use them more for rasp and drone control than overall volume control where a muffler would be ideal. On the 997.1 these drone tubes are an extra effort to isolate a specific area where mufflers and resonators would need to be much larger or abundant to control these factors while neutering the sound.

-Mike


arscottp 03-02-2021 12:57 PM

Thanks for the response. I was referring to your helmholtz resonators (what you are calling anti drone tubes). The 4 'resonators' you are using are more like mufflers IMO (straight through 'absorbing' type mufflers).

The drone on these cars is around 2500-3000 like you say. Simple apps on your phone can easily isolate that frequency. From there you can calculate the length of the helmholtz resonators to reduce that frequency. Things like position, diameter, and other things (mufflers) in the system can change how they work. Sounds is pretty handwavy so I agree testing is the way to go.

The reason I asked is because if you do the calcs for 129hz the helmholtz resonator should be significantly longer than what you've designed. Don't get me wrong, your exhaust sounds very good and looks amazing, I would buy it :). It was more of an engineering question in regards to the approach.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0e43a72f8d.jpg


Soul Performance 03-02-2021 01:51 PM

The helmholtz resonators could likely be more effective if longer but we are limited by packaging restraints under the vehicle and the quad resonators already have a good effect, they are implemented to take the edge off the increase in frequencies from removing the catalytic converters. They're quite effective given their size though. We've tested with a gamut of programs, calculations, recordings and nothing beats practical experimentation!

-Mike

arscottp 03-02-2021 02:10 PM

I agree, sound is so qualitative for an exhaust, physical testing is a totally reasonable approach.

LoveMyC4S 03-02-2021 05:28 PM

Dear Soul performance.I have enjoyed my Competition X pipe Exhaust on my 2009 6MT TT, but I’m curious as to why it doesn’t crackle and pop during deceleration like it did when it was first installed, and it’s aggressive sound has definitely diminished. What could possibly be affecting it. Your thoughts?

Thanks,

Capt. Obvious 03-02-2021 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by arscottp (Post 17268199)
Thanks for the response. I was referring to your helmholtz resonators (what you are calling anti drone tubes). The 4 'resonators' you are using are more like mufflers IMO (straight through 'absorbing' type mufflers).

The drone on these cars is around 2500-3000 like you say. Simple apps on your phone can easily isolate that frequency. From there you can calculate the length of the helmholtz resonators to reduce that frequency. Things like position, diameter, and other things (mufflers) in the system can change how they work. Sounds is pretty handwavy so I agree testing is the way to go.

The reason I asked is because if you do the calcs for 129hz the helmholtz resonator should be significantly longer than what you've designed. Don't get me wrong, your exhaust sounds very good and looks amazing, I would buy it :). It was more of an engineering question in regards to the approach.

You are describing a quarter-wave resonator. Soul uses a helmholtz chamber. They work on a similar principle, but the math and implementation is nonetheless different.

powdrhound 03-02-2021 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by arscottp (Post 17268199)
Thanks for the response. I was referring to your helmholtz resonators (what you are calling anti drone tubes). The 4 'resonators' you are using are more like mufflers IMO (straight through 'absorbing' type mufflers).

The drone on these cars is around 2500-3000 like you say. Simple apps on your phone can easily isolate that frequency. From there you can calculate the length of the helmholtz resonators to reduce that frequency. Things like position, diameter, and other things (mufflers) in the system can change how they work. Sounds is pretty handwavy so I agree testing is the way to go.

The reason I asked is because if you do the calcs for 129hz the helmholtz resonator should be significantly longer than what you've designed. Don't get me wrong, your exhaust sounds very good and looks amazing, I would buy it :). It was more of an engineering question in regards to the approach.

We use 1/4 wave resonators and they are absolute magic. We use them on 3.5" Titanium straight pipes which prior to the resonators had absolutely unbearable resonance even with ear plugs. With the resonators, the sound is totally changed, slightly deeper and with virtually zero drop present. You can easily skip earplugs now which is amazing considering there is no muffling present. At idle the sound is downright docile. This is on a 4.0 turbo Mezger. For optimal performance, you want the resonators to be as straight as possible and resonator length and tubing diameter have to be taken into account along with the rpm at which the offending resonance is occurring which in our case was 2600-3100. There are formulas which assist in calculating the resonator dimensions. When done properly, 1/4 length wave resonators are amazingly effective. I have used 1/4 wave resonators on my previous three X-pipe exhausts and the results were the same. I would not run an exhaust without employing these on this platform.


Note the discoloration of the Ti pipes after a season of heavy track use.

LoveMyC4S 03-05-2021 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by LoveMyC4S (Post 17268952)
Dear Soul performance.I have enjoyed my Competition X pipe Exhaust on my 2009 6MT TT, but I’m curious as to why it doesn’t crackle and pop during deceleration like it did when it was first installed, and it’s aggressive sound has definitely diminished. What could possibly be affecting it. Your thoughts?

Thanks,

Can someone from Soul Performance please answer my question.

thanks.

Soul Performance 03-05-2021 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by LoveMyC4S (Post 17276455)
Can someone from Soul Performance please answer my question.

thanks.

Hey there, sorry for the late response I’ve been out having some light eye surgery. Sometimes when you change an exhaust the flow and performance has a dramatic change and the ECU goes through a bit of an acclimation/adaptation period. Your car may have had a little extra fuel making it’s way into the exhaust system, which is what causes pops/burbles on deceleration. I’ve also seen a reduction in pops/burbles after a tune up (car had plugs in poor shape not providing full spark) or a software change that has it running more efficiently and less “fat” on fuel. Either way, your experience isn’t abnormal and if you want more pops/burbles and aggression over what you currently have, I would suggest we connect you with a software tuner that can get you some more performance while at the same time tweaking the software give you more of what you want. If you’re up for that, please feel free to give me a ring sometime at 4848836197 or shoot me an email at johng@soulpp.com.

Regards,
John Gaydos

Ruskiy 03-05-2021 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by LoveMyC4S (Post 17276455)
Can someone from Soul Performance please answer my question.

thanks.

It's most likely tune related. ECU adjusted your fuel trims and it is more efficient now. I would imagine that if temps drastically change or you reset your ECU you could get some of the pops back in there.

Quiet is efficient, quiet is clean.

arscottp 03-06-2021 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by powdrhound (Post 17269066)
We use 1/4 wave resonators and they are absolute magic. We use them on 3.5" Titanium straight pipes which prior to the resonators had absolutely unbearable resonance even with ear plugs. With the resonators, the sound is totally changed, slightly deeper and with virtually zero drop present. You can easily skip earplugs now which is amazing considering there is no muffling present. At idle the sound is downright docile. This is on a 4.0 turbo Mezger. For optimal performance, you want the resonators to be as straight as possible and resonator length and tubing diameter have to be taken into account along with the rpm at which the offending resonance is occurring which in our case was 2600-3100. There are formulas which assist in calculating the resonator dimensions. When done properly, 1/4 length wave resonators are amazingly effective. I have used 1/4 wave resonators on my previous three X-pipe exhausts and the results were the same. I would not run an exhaust without employing these on this platform.

Note the discoloration of the Ti pipes after a season of heavy track use.

powdrhound thanks for sharing. Those hemoltz resonators look appropriate in length to cancel out the drone at the frequency I posted (so long they overlap).

Your straight pipe setup is basically what I was envisioning to built and test on my car. Glad to see someone else do it that way and confirm the drone is all but eliminated.

notabenex 05-24-2021 07:50 AM

Hello, I have FVD exhaust (Brombacher) on my 997.1 turbo and it has huge drone around 2300-2900 rpm which is annoying - my car is DD.

Is this exhaust really without drone? Can I reuse cats which were supplied with FVD exhaust? - https://www.fvd.net/us-en/BES9971524...port-cats.html

Do you have dealer in Europe which has exhaust in stock?

Soul Performance 05-26-2021 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by notabenex (Post 17449185)
Hello, I have FVD exhaust (Brombacher) on my 997.1 turbo and it has huge drone around 2300-2900 rpm which is annoying - my car is DD.

Is this exhaust really without drone? Can I reuse cats which were supplied with FVD exhaust? - https://www.fvd.net/us-en/BES9971524...port-cats.html

Do you have dealer in Europe which has exhaust in stock?

Thank you for asking! We've implemented drone fighting provisions on this exhaust but it will still have some drone as it is an aggressive style exhaust. I am not aware of any dealers in Europe with the system in stock at this time.

-Mike

Soul Performance 06-18-2021 06:03 PM

Here's an awesome video by our dealer Flat 6 Motorsports featuring our Competition X-Pipe Exhaust System:


-Mike

texas_maverick 07-20-2021 10:19 PM

How adjustable are these? I'm unsure if one of my aftermarket tips was positioned poorly or if it's another issue (due upgraded exhaust by the previous owner). The color of my 997.1 Turbo is atlas grey metallic and I'm interested in the brush finish.

Apologies as I was referring to the GT2 tips.

Soul Performance 10-25-2021 11:25 AM

This is the result you can expect from our 996 / 997.1 Competition Exhaust System from passengers: :D


-Mike

Soul Performance 03-15-2022 06:01 PM

We've updated our Turbo systems to incorporate a new CAD designed cast X pipe which yields less welds and a smoother internal transition for maximum flow. We're dedicated to improving our components whenever we can and we appreciate your orders and interest through the years!

https://i4q6a2d6.stackpathcdn.com/wp...ipe.jpg?x11192

-Mike

Ruskiy 03-15-2022 10:19 PM

Purely out of interest how do you determine that the change is a positive one?

I understand that the exhaust gases are quite lazy, so is it the width of the X-pipe section that improved the flow? So same velocity is remained and restriction is reduced, or?

Edit: Derp, you did say smoother welds so that's probably it.

Edit #2: Funny, the video above said Sport OFF vs Sport ON. At first I thought it was a valved exhaust until I had realized you were talking about the Sport Chrono. When I datalog I had noticed that at idle we go from (6 degrees I think? to -6 degrees of timing), I also think the Turbo Vanes change position, both yield the sound change. Maybe RPM is bumped up too? Overall, all I am saying is it was interesting to observer and then to remember the data and to see it in your video.

Soul Performance 03-16-2022 03:53 PM

Utilizing the cast design versus hand making the X-sections allowed us to make a more ideal interior design in terms of flow - smoother internal surface (no welds like you mentioned) and a smoother ramp up into the X-chamber. Casting this section allowed us to design it with no physical restrictions like making it it from piping did. We did CAD simulation testing with both setups and the cast design was optimized until it had slightly improved velocity out of the X versus the old design. The new cast X adds around a pound in weight but the increased density should absorb some of the negative frequencies inherent to the platform better.

-Mike

Soul Performance 07-22-2022 02:09 PM

Another 997.1 Turbo Competition X-Pipe system through fabrication and quality check, before getting our Signature Satin finish!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4d269a3b12.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2614165220.jpg
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https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...18fdf41fb1.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7b2a13add4.jpg

ChrisF 07-24-2022 01:53 AM

Does this fit the 997 GT2?

Its_Lobelt 07-25-2022 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Soul Performance (Post 18262543)

I wonder if this is mine. :)

Soul Performance 07-27-2022 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisF (Post 18264871)
Does this fit the 997 GT2?

Doing a little research on this and it looks like the 997 GT2 is quite unique. It's design looks like the predecessor to the modular factory systems on the 997.2 Turbo. Based on the diagrams I would expect our complete 997.2 Turbo system would likely fit on that car. If you'd like to do a bit of a deep dive on it and work together to make it happen, give me a ring at 4848836197 or shoot me an email at johng@soulpp.com :cheers:

Regards,
John Gaydos

Ruskiy 08-02-2022 07:56 PM

Isn’t the 997 GT2 a 997.1 motor so the .1 exhaust with different tips would fit? No?


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