theplings

Was the car tracked? I was looking at an 08 that I passed on a little while back with 29k miles, about 20k on the track - the Rev reports are very similar.

During it's track life it needed new turbos and a new transmission. The Indy that did my PPI didn't object to the rev report - but as soon as he put it on the lift it just had never ending odds and ends that needed to be fixed - and the price didn't reflect it's condition.

bigbri916

Thanks! I plan on getting the car dynoed and tuned when I get it over here.

bigbri916

Thanks for the advice, I plan on getting the tune checked out and the car dyno. I am in Northern California any of those 5-6 big names out here or are they plug and play tunes?

bigbri916

This car is a 07 and i don't think it has ever been tracked the ppi went perfect on everything but the revs.

Spens

Okay so if we can agree that the operating Hour is at least 1266 and the car is supposed to have 30.000 miles on it. 30,000 / 1266 = average speed of 23.7 miles per hour. Normal average speed is somewhere between 30-50mph depending of the traffic it is driven.

Normally you always get a readout on operating hours, something doesn't seem right here. I would ask for total operating hours again together with a very good explanation on the very low average speed of the car.

bigbri916

At first the service guy at Porsche told me the readouts don't give that number, we all know that's incorrect. The when I called back he said this car wasn't giving it, maybe due to the software or tune? I don't know if he didn't take the time to look, they were slammed and he was being short the whole time. I am across the usa having this done to this car. That average speed is normal I have read for city driven cars like this one was? Are cars like this mileage easy to tamper with?

Spens

I'm not an expert but it should be fairly easy to tamper with the odometer but somewhat harder to change the engines operating hours. As far as i am aware you can only erase engine data totally and not change it.
The dealer could be right about the missing data when tampered with the ECU / software.

But as someone mentioned earlier if the price is right, you like it and you can get a warranty with the car you should be safe.

Spens

By the way the over rev data can translate in to the following timeframe:
level 3: 6456 ignitions = approximately 16,8 seconds (in total)
Level 4: 2470 ignitions = approximately 6,3 seconds (in total)

Just to put the data in perspective :-)

Catorce

The dme report ABSOLUTELY gives you hours. I own a PIWIS 2 and went to the factory training for it. Tell the shop to give you a copy of the VAL - Vehicle Analysis Log. It is the first thing you do (it makes you) when you plug the PIWIS in.

They have the VAL already - what you are looking at is a tiny portion of it. The VAL is about 25 pages long on average. Lots of stuff will be useless to you, but still nice to have. The VAL also displays trouble codes that do not trigger a CEL.

pfbz

I'm sure you already figured this out from the above comments, but the hours shown are the hours the over-rev occurred at, not the hours since the over-rev. Which is why everyone wants to know the current hours...

But given the frequency the car hit range 1, I bet it's pretty close to the 1266 hours of the last range 1.

bigbri916

I contacted the dealership again, and they said the VAL Showed no trouble codes, they go over them if they do in the PPI but they didn't see the total hours. They said they cant go back and look it over because the car isnt there? Is that some bs?

bigbri916

I agree. I figure that is the current and that the last level one was hit during the ppi test drive. They said everything with the car checked out perfect.

Catorce

It is rare to have a car that doesn't have at least one or two minor codes - they are not trouble codes per se, they are just issues that the DME is reporting. These cars are so high tech that they often glitch internally but it's nothing to worry about.

The VAL is saved on the PIWIS tester even after the car leaves, unless they are super busy and delete them.

Still, the PIWIS tester is a laptop with a hard drive, and it is capable of storing thousands if not millions of VALs.

People need to change their lingo when doing a PPI. Don't ask for an "overrev report" - ask for a copy of a Vehicle Analysis Log (VAL) which is much more complete.

bigbri916

I agree. I gotta say the Porsche dealership service seemed sub par. Kinda disappointing first experience coming to the brand for the first time. Maybe I expected too much? I guess with any car brand there are good dealerships and bad. I bought the car and will receive it next week and take it to a shop close by for a more in depth look. But all the main things I was worried about they checked and it passed.

TT Surgeon

Congrats, don't worry you'll be fine. Dme reports are way over emphasized. Glad none of my 930s counted over revs!