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Old 07-27-2017, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Turboslut
Just went through your other thread. Thank goodness for you only feet from your house and going slow.

If you don't mind me asking...on the springs....why did you choose Eibach and not GMG?
They seem to be the forum favorite.
Honestly GMG kind of slipped my mind. They are located about 20 minutes from where I lived, and I never thought of them. I have eibachs on 2-3 other cars, they did OK.
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Originally Posted by Tom-TPC Racing
OP- you can use Damptronic coilovers for GT3 or OEM GT3 shocks. You need front sleeves, upper spring adapters and longer front PASM cables to install any GT3 shocks on a Carrera. GT3 shocks are less comfort oriented by DSC will take care of that.
Where do you get sleeves and all the other hardware? Is that something you sell?
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Catorce
Where do you get sleeves and all the other hardware? Is that something you sell?
we make the sleeves and upper adapters from billet aluminum. Cables are from Bilstein USA.
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Old 07-29-2017, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Catorce
So who has ditched PASM in favor of Ohlins or Motons or some other coilover?? Are you happy?
I am always puzzled when folks ask a question like this without any discussion of their driving habits, goals, kind of roads typically driven, etc...

Are you looking for better 'fast everyday' performance? Track day sweetness? Aggressive canyon carving?

eg: A setup that will feel far better on hot laps might really suck on a crappy road commute, especially without the variability of PASM. In general, TANSTAAFL, though Porsche technology like PASM and PDCC try very hard to rewrite this rule.
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:00 PM
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^Good point, all of the above, except I do not track this car and have no plans to.
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Old 07-30-2017, 01:56 AM
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Without desire to track, I'd say that giving up PASM, especially when going to a stiffer setup, would be a bad tradeoff.
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Old 07-30-2017, 02:07 AM
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Haven't used them so can't comment, but you might contact Gert Carnewal in Belgium (carnewal.com), long time highly trusted vendor I have dealt with a number of times. Maybe he has Damptronics in stock.

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Old 07-30-2017, 07:06 PM
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AWE usually has the bilsteins in stock.
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I thought PASM is extremely wanted/popular feature
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Originally Posted by onsickm
I thought PASM is extremely wanted/popular feature
it is.... but some of us want a little more performance and right now I don't believe there are options other than the Bilsteins ...

I could be wrong btw ....
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Originally Posted by triplenet
it is.... but some of us want a little more performance and right now I don't believe there are options other than the Bilsteins ...

I could be wrong btw ....
I'm pretty sure you are correct about the B16 being the only PASM equipped aftermarket shock.

All i do is drive this thing around in SPORT and honestly I am not too thrilled with the handling. I have other cars with coilovers so I know what that is like, but I don't have a B16 car with a TPC box, which I think would be awesome.
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look into the B16 Comfort series

FVD Sells them, I think for the 997 chassis they would be better suited than the sport setup.

it all depends where you live in terms of typical road surface quality.

if you have decent roads the B16 Sport is the winner

my ohlins can handle the repeat abuse and high oil temperatures on the track and hard canyon runs. the B16 will show its weakness on spirited extended runs

that said I truly think the active damper setup with the DSC is the real winner for a street car.

it also depends on tire choice - Michelin CUP 2 is too stiff for the 997 chassis IMO for street driving.

I now have the P4S and they are a lot softer in terms of sidewall and do not produce the jarring suspension trait

had I just used the P4S OR SS I would have gone with the bilsteins, the CUP 2 demonstrated that the shocks were just not up for the challenge. this was with the stock setup.

I have around 18 adjustments on the ohlins but run them 2 clicks from full soft as otherwise for street they are juts too stiff

get the B16's and let the module regulate for you! will be even better with the TPC Module.

its just far easier!
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BTW what's the difference between B8, B16 and stock suspension? Never managed to find this out.
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Solely from reading this thread, sounds like B8 is sport and B16 comfort.

And quick google results in this great explanation - http://www.bilsteinus.com/news-event...85aa8f4166112a

Reading ^ - looks like B16 is the right play
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Originally Posted by El Dario Loco
BTW what's the difference between B8, B16 and stock suspension? Never managed to find this out.
B8 is a beefier, stiffer version of stock, same MacPherson strut design up front. B16 is a full coilover, still retaining PASM.
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