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Old 06-17-2017, 03:01 PM
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Sorry guys, I haven't owned either. But! I frequently attend track days and last week I had the pleasure of driving a 997.2 GT3 RS. Let me tell you, I have never been in love with a car as much as that one. The engine, at start-up, alone sends you to cloud nine. The steering, pedal and shift feel is all icing on top - all behind that amazing motor. If the 997.2 RS prices weren't so crazy I would totally opt for one instead of trying to get the newest 991.2 manual GT3.
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Originally Posted by ML///
Sorry guys, I haven't owned either. But! I frequently attend track days and last week I had the pleasure of driving a 997.2 GT3 RS. Let me tell you, I have never been in love with a car as much as that one. The engine, at start-up, alone sends you to cloud nine. The steering, pedal and shift feel is all icing on top - all behind that amazing motor. If the 997.2 RS prices weren't so crazy I would totally opt for one instead of trying to get the newest 991.2 manual GT3.
Sup Myron!

OP After doing an instructor school, my mentor and the instructor evaluator wouldn't stop telling me how amazing the 997.2rs was. My mentor did extensive coaching and driving with a 991.1 RS and said for him he would rather have the 997.2rs if that helps.
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Thank you for the response so far.
Anyone experienced 997.2 and 997.2 RS?
Is the RS that much better driving experience/rewarding than a normal 997.2 GT3?
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Originally Posted by DK7
Thank you for the response so far.
Anyone experienced 997.2 and 997.2 RS?
Is the RS that much better driving experience/rewarding than a normal 997.2 GT3?
Yes
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
Yes
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I've owned both, the difference is there. Actually just last week a buddy and I drove my 997-2 RS and his 997-2 GT3 back to back on the same roads, swapping cars. The GT3 is amazing but there is something about the RS that makes it just better. We both agreed on that. Gearing, traction, overall package...

For me personally the shorter gearing is what makes the biggest difference. Everything else is bonus.
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Sup dude! You knew I was talking about your car. I'm telling you - your RS is still pure sex. That exhaust note only....

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Sup Myron!

OP After doing an instructor school, my mentor and the instructor evaluator wouldn't stop telling me how amazing the 997.2rs was. My mentor did extensive coaching and driving with a 991.1 RS and said for him he would rather have the 997.2rs if that helps.
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Originally Posted by DK7
Thank you for the response so far.
Anyone experienced 997.2 and 997.2 RS?
Is the RS that much better driving experience/rewarding than a normal 997.2 GT3?
Yes, did 20,000kms in a year in my 997.2 GT3, many track days, great car. The only issues I have with it are the gearing, turn-in (without a lot of setup), ride quality and composure.

Just got the 997.2 RS two days ago, it's amazing, fixes the gearing, turns-in without any setup, rides almost as well as my old 991RS and is much more composed over undulating roads. The single mass flywheel makes each gear change such an event, have to be quick to keep up with the car, love it!
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Very interesting thread. I've been lucky never to have fallen for the 'latest, greatest' marketing pitch. I've driven 991gt3, 997.2gt3, and 997.1rs. I prefer my 996.2gt3 with monoball + Motons vs. all of them. I am guessing the verdict would be the same vs 991rs.

With time, I'm less interested in the new, heavier, detached, appliance-like cars as my backroads carvers and increasingly direct my attention to older, lighter, more tactile cars like, say, 70's 911 hotrods. I use a modern 5-series bmw as an appliance.
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I am not sure a 997.2 RS is worth +50k$ over a 997.2 GT3 at current prices.
2-3 years ago difference was more like 30-35k.
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It's worth it, the gap isn't going to get any smaller...it's worth a lot more than a regular GT3 IMO
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Originally Posted by DK7
I am not sure a 997.2 RS is worth +50k$ over a 997.2 GT3 at current prices.
2-3 years ago difference was more like 30-35k.
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It's worth it, the gap isn't going to get any smaller...it's worth a lot more than a regular GT3 IMO
The 'RS gap' has been there and is getting larger to the extent that collectors are taking over from the drivers. In every generation, a gt3 could very easily be modified and set up to match or outperform a stock RS in every dimension for a fraction of the price diff. Any knowledgable GT shop would confirm this.
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Good points. I am not sure the RS gap getting bigger, when you use the car... ?
Collector RS low mileage, not tracked and mint condition probably yes.
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Originally Posted by DK7
Good points. I am not sure the RS gap getting bigger, when you use the car... ?
Collector RS low mileage, not tracked and mint condition probably yes.
Collector-car vs collector-car or driver vs driver, gap will only get wider over time.
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
Collector-car vs collector-car or driver vs driver, gap will only get wider over time.
i think a 997 RS is possible more mileage sensible than a 997 GT3. Perhaps i am wrong.
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I know this is probably kinda weird but I've never met a single 997 GT3 or RS that is faster than my 997.2 Turbo S on the track. And I've seen plenty of them, trust me. This includes the 4.0 RS. I think maybe the manual shifting really slows down the car on a track. I'm talking Street tires only (Cup 2's). Only one time did I meet a fast .2 RS but he was running full Michelin slicks. My home track is 3 miles and 16 turns.

My only mods are sway bars and front spacers.

I used to own a 997.2 GT3, club sport package with full buckets, oem roll bar and harness. I don't miss it at all for some reason. I find it too slow on street and on track. I only miss the engine note.

The 991's are a different breed though. They are seriously fast on track.

So I guess what I'm saying is I would take a 991 RS all day. I care about fast above all. Usually newer = faster.


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