DYSL

Would there be a benefit to doing full 996 cup cables/shifter vs .2 OE shifter/cup cables?

Bryce86

I'm running a CAE in my track M3. The precision is perfection. So well spring loaded that you'd need to try hard to miss shift. Despite its length it shortens the shift.

Do the cables and shifter offer the same effect? Would you do this in conjunction with the CAE?

mooty

boostedtoy is
comprehensively right

altercation has all the data

i tried every combination in existence on MY OWN cars. if threes a way to break something i will find it. that said i only run 996cup shifter and cable. is it best? to me yes. but every combo has issues. all are notchy. but different ways. u may want to try them.

sometimes too short is just too short
i know many love CAE. it's
machines beautifully
i hated it. strokes are too short for me.

DYSL

Thanks everyone for their valued input. I think I am well equipped now to make a decision....

Now it comes down to, do I try to and take the challenge of removing my center console before taking it to GMG!

Numeric Racing

This is in response to what someone said about the Numeric Shifter. I can tell you that the shifter will not cause your shifting to be notchy. When it is not hooked up to the cables it is as free as can be. Basically flops around on precision bearings. I can tell you if your shifter is notchy it is most definitely coming from your shifter cables. You can get rid of the notchiness in a few ways. You can install a new pair of cables. You can also clean your current cables with carb cleaner and then relubricate them. I have done this before. I periodically do this to my Numeric cables in my race car. I want my shifting to be as free as can be. Also it will not wear your gears out prematurely. The shifter has nothing to do with meshing the gears. It is simply pulling on the cable and moving the shift selector engaging it into gear. We are not changing anything in the transmission that would cause the gears to wear prematurely. All the rotating axis on the Numeric shifter are on bearings making it feel much smoother than stock. It is also housed in a billet aluminum eliminating any flex. The cables are a larger diameter making them stronger than stock. They are a upgrade from the current cup cables. The nameless shop making those statements is clearly and absolutely 100% wrong.

Dan

ngng

thanks for the input. i have a numeric with their cables and am very happy with it. the shortest position was too short for me, but a less aggressive setting has been great. i can't speak to #2 though, but that sounds like an adjustment issue?

DYSL

FYI - Just informed that the 996 Cup Shifter is no longer available from PMNA.

Cables are in abundance.

runet

A workaround solution to this would be to upgrade a standard 996 GT3 shifter with the Function First Shift-Right metal internals. I installed this in my 997 shifter and has been happy with it.

DYSL

Not sure what how that would be an upgrade. I suppose I can just install the First Shift-Right metal internals on the .2 shifter

Spyerx

i'll simplify this:

If I had your car (a .2) I would just get the cup cables. There is a noticeable difference in shift feel.

Keep It Simple. Now, if you want more it's easy to swap in the shift box (2 hour DIY if going slow). Cables are a little more work.

DYSL

That's exactly the plan. She's headed to GMG Tomorrow

T10Chris

Well that kinda sucks... I just installed the cables this afternoon and was going to look for the shifter to match. I was always torn between the cup shifter and .2 GT3 shifter anyway, so I guess the .2 it is

Are you sure that makes it the same as the cup shifter?

Function-First

The only difference btwn the Cup shifter and the standard 996 shifter is the Cup shifter replaces the OEM plastic/rubber bushings with aluminum bushings. This reduces flex. However, the Cup shifters have a tendency to wear out over time and develop significant fore/aft play.
The 997.2 GT3 shifter is a standard throw 997 shifter with aluminum bushings. So it's essentially a Cup shifter with 15% reduced throw.

The Function-First SHIFT-RIGHT Solution replaces the shifter bushings with ball bearings, AND replaces the entire shifter yoke mechanism that translates side-side cable motion with a billet piece mounted on ball bearings. End result is smooth and solid feel with zero flex or play.

For an in-depth read explaining the OEM shifter options, including the Cup shifter and my SHIFT-RIGHT Solution upgrade, check out this in-depth thread I posted a while back:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...n-upgrade.html

Any questions at all, please reach out!
Oh, and we'll be running a holiday sale - announcement coming this Friday.

DYSL

This hit the nail right on the head...thanks for the posting on this thread!

FastAlpine

^ Looking forward to the pricing this Friday