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ZMC-ZH 03-08-2016 07:24 AM

964 Turbo 3.6 - would you trade
 
I have been offered to trade my 997.2 GT3 for a 964 Turbo 3.6.

I haven't seen the car but assuming it is in perfect condition like mine, would you trade?
I am sceptical on the driving experience of the 964.

ilko 03-08-2016 07:37 AM

Straight trade? Yes, absolutely. Then immediately sell the turbo and buy another 997-2 GT3 and a 993 (or 964) with the remaining $100+K. You will even have money left over for go-fast mods on the antique :)

In the US those turbos sell for a pretty penny. But the driving experience isn't what you'd expect from a $250K+ car frankly.

:cheers:

ZMC-ZH 03-08-2016 07:40 AM

I am in Europe, prices are lower and spread isn't that big.

ZMC-ZH 03-08-2016 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by ilko (Post 13087083)
In the US those turbos sell for a pretty penny. But the driving experience isn't what you'd expect from a $250K+ car frankly.
:cheers:

That is what I thought. I am more after the driving experience than the antique feel although to be honest stepping into the GT3 world was more a consequence of 964/993 Turbo prices rocketing than love at 1st sight. I just thought I need to get one before they call for more $$$ than I want to spend on them.
Sticked with non RS for that reason and god that RS itch is strong now.

CRex 03-08-2016 09:01 AM

The 3.6T is an appreciating car. From a $ perspective I'll take a straight trade any day of the week and twice on Sunday's.

Have a 3.6 myself and it's really chalk and cheese. You won't get remotely the same driving enjoyment coming from a 7-3. But I get a kick out of admiring the curves of the w/b 964.

All down to what you're looking for.

C.J. Ichiban 03-08-2016 11:42 AM

the 3.6T in the states is in the 200-350USD asking price range depending on the mileage and condition.

the 997.2 GT3 is a 120k car. that's a massive spread here.

Larry Cable 03-08-2016 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by ZMC-ZH (Post 13087072)
I have been offered to trade my 997.2 GT3 for a 964 Turbo 3.6.

I haven't seen the car but assuming it is in perfect condition like mine, would you trade?
I am sceptical on the driving experience of the 964.

that car will teach you more about being a great driver than the 7.2 can ...

r6elmo 03-08-2016 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by ilko (Post 13087083)
Straight trade? Yes, absolutely. Then immediately sell the turbo and buy another 997-2 GT3 and a 993 (or 964) with the remaining $100+K. You will even have money left over for go-fast mods on the antique :)

exactly, aren't the 964 turbos more rare than the 993 turbos? or at least they are in the USA. only 3700 3.3 Turbos, 1500 3.6 turbos.

SGS 03-08-2016 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by ZMC-ZH (Post 13087167)
That is what I thought. I am more after the driving experience than the antique feel although to be honest stepping into the GT3 world was more a consequence of 964/993 Turbo prices rocketing than love at 1st sight. I just thought I need to get one before they call for more $$$ than I want to spend on them.
Sticked with non RS for that reason and god that RS itch is strong now.

Exactly the same here.... But now I've become a rabid GT3 fan....

RajDatta 03-08-2016 06:49 PM

I found the experience of driving a 993tt very underwhelming after coming out of my GT3. Granted, it's wasn't a 964T, but I expect the experience to be a big letdown.
As stated, buy it to sell it and then get back into a GT3.

C.J. Ichiban 03-08-2016 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by 968TurboS (Post 13089125)
I found the experience of driving a 993tt very underwhelming after coming out of my GT3. Granted, it's wasn't a 964T, but I expect the experience to be a big letdown.
As stated, buy it to sell it and then get back into a GT3.

and the 993TT is actually a better car to drive than the 3.6 in terms of the power band etc. I feel like the 964 is a fun and hairy chested car but will definitely feel sluggish at anything below 10/10ths coming from a GT3 or anything water-cooled.

the idea overall though is what REALLY floats your boat. The 964 3.6T is a gorgeous and classic porsche.

Modena 1 03-08-2016 09:32 PM

Like the others said. Financially as a trade it's a do. However, I am not sure how many guys wake up in the morning and say, God I hope I find that 3.6T I need for 300k or better. In other words, plenty of lofty asking and I imagine actual bids are fickle and far between.

I think the air cooled turbo cars (and air cooled but to lesser extent) are the poster child of irrational exuberance. Ok a flat nose flachenblow or whatever it's called is a different thing but 4 spd 930s for 120 and 993tt for 300k is insane. Correction is coming.

Gt cars in my opinion are totally different. These cars are modern by comparison but feel old school. There is a difference. They are not too old where they have constant needs (or restoration) or in that the new cars completely blow them away. They are still the car to drive and enjoy right now.

You want to be the old guy who says yeah check it out and quote some 20 year old article or just drive like a maniac and enjoy every minute?

You choose

Rick GT3 03-08-2016 10:06 PM

I will trade it, agree with all above comments...

TheSilverFox 03-08-2016 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by 968TurboS (Post 13089125)
I found the experience of driving a 993tt very underwhelming after coming out of my GT3. Granted, it's wasn't a 964T, but I expect the experience to be a big letdown.
As stated, buy it to sell it and then get back into a GT3.

Horses for courses, could probably say the same for most 911 turbo variants. 993tt is definitely a grand touring car with big performance. Hard to compare to a GT3 driving experience

I would take the 3.6 in a heartbeat. If nothing else drive it for a year or two and check the box. These may be in a bubble or maybe they were just undervalued for years. All aircooled turbos look awesome in my opinion.

turbodickie 03-09-2016 12:17 AM

Trade now!


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