Jrtaylor9

maybe because the engine is actually fine spinning up to that point? Setting aside the bad driving debate, maybe the design/robustness of the machine has no cause to even register anything below 9k? Maybe they could have taken RL to 9k, but somewhat over-engineered it? Idk, but I doubt Porsche raised the stage 1 threshold on a 997 gt3 and made it closer on the 997 turbo “just because”. Those crazy Germans are typically pretty methodical about things.

hf1

There's no hard threshold under which all revs are "good" and all above are "bad". It's gradual and it affects wear and tear over time. I for one would like to know how much time an engine has spent in the higher revs (below/at/above) the rev limit regardless of how robust the engine's design. Race engines driven at 100% all the time require more frequent rebuilds for a reason. Heck, why not record all ignitions above 6000 in 1000 increments and let everyone use that data however they want? Memory and chips are practically free these days.

hf1

Saying that revs under 9000 are "fine" and need not be recorded is like saying that miles under 50,000 are fine (as the car is robust enough to handle them) and need not be recorded. An "over-mileage" DME report would just count miles over 50,000.

Fritz Flynn

I'm glad they did because It keeps people from freaking out about the DME report In this car I'd rather see a one time mistake that registered a stage 2 or 3 than lots of ones.

I've seen lots of 6 GT3s with the max stage ones that can be registered (i think it's something like 65k). You can bet that's a heavily tracked car 7 GT3s with lots of stage ones are likely heavily tracked cars with bad drivers (possibly the worst car to buy hehe)

hf1

I had this discussion with Doug (@switchcars) recently. My point is that: (1) more data about a product is always better than less and (2) the market, over time, will reward those which interpret that data correctly and punish those that interpret it wrongly. But the market (transparency) improves overall.

If recorded ignitions in the 6-7000 rpm range spook you in a GT car then you will overcompensate for that in the (lower) price which you are willing to bid making it more attractive for the buyers who price this data correctly to get the car they want for less. As the information about the relevance of this data spreads across the market, the prices will eventually converge to where they need to be.

Jrtaylor9

Actually there are thresholds. When an engine explodes because it spun too quickly, I think we hit a threshold. But I'm just poking fun. I get your point. More data is always better than less unless it's more garbage data but in this case it's not.

bonehead

This vid has been posted on the forum somewhere before. I'm guessing he's going 7-8/10ths on the Nordschleife. Difficult to see the tach, but I would guess he's registered at least a few range 1's on some of those downshifts. I don't think anyone here would call this 'bad driving'.

WantA997

This will likely end up RNM, given the fact this car is on Autotrader.ca for $230k, along with a 1998 C2S for $180k CAD (in other words, seller is living in a fantasy world).

Fritz Flynn

I didn't see any over revs but only watched about 1/2. He just has poor timing on his throttle or he's hitting the clutch before he releases the gas. AND some of his heal toe is off but no over revs from down shifting to soon that I could tell?

BOTTOMLINE: if you register a stage one in a 997 it's bad driving. You released the clutch way to soon or miss shifted.

Coop

Hi all, selling (or consigned) my car to a local dealer here in Toronto and thought some RL members might like it as well. Two owner car (I am the second), great spec with PCCBs, Sport Chrono, Navi and FAL. OEM Clubsport cage, 23842 kms.

https://www.pfaffreserve.com/used/hf...-id9988148.htm

If interested, please connect with Edward at Pfaff Reserve; 647-929-3698

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hf1

It's raining Canadian GT cars! Is it the collapsed cad/usd rate that makes even lower usd prices now attractive for sellers in cad terms?

cgfen

c'mon man, have the courage to support your convictions...............

rsierra

I'll summarize for you:

A canadian comes up with a "scheme" to make a "killing" on his orange 2007 GT3RS. He "conspires" with a US dealer to somehow sell them the car so it has a US title. Which makes the sale very confusing as the canadian dude has some deal with the US dealer to get a "commission" on the sale. They hope that the weak Canadian dollar helps them score a pile of cash.

Unfortunately for the seller(s) they woefully underestimate the market for these cars (and the timing) and thoroughly embarrass themselves. To make it even more interesting, the seller(s) play "hide the weenie" on the rear main seal oil leak (and god knows what else), the dealer even lies about it saying it doesn't exist.

Some of the "experts" and lemmings here on RL fall for the nonsense and root on the not so transparent sale. It's ends up being highly entertaining watching in real time as the plan blows up in their face. Moral of the story, these cars are made to drive and have fun with and not to make money on.

nochain19

my thought as well. Seems like pcarmarket doesn’t scrutinize reserves as much as BAT - so seems like 90% of cars on pcarmarket just go to their “deal tank” and never actually sell

cgfen

Interesting reply.
Thanks.

Can't disagree with last sentence.

Craig