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Old 06-25-2012, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Clarke, is this the right breakdown at VIR for the DE Cup?

Moving Chicane Cup: 2:10 or slower
Coffee Cup: 2:05-2:10
Gold Cup: 2:00-2:05
Platinum Cup: under 2:00
No RS on RA1 will do under a 2:00. 997 Cups were doing 1:57-2:01 at the CR. Better breakout is probably

2:04 and below P
2:05-2:07 G
2:08-2:10 C
2:10 and greater MC
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Originally Posted by rmag
No RS on RA1 will do under a 2:00. 997 Cups were doing 1:57-2:01 at the CR. Better breakout is probably

2:04 and below P
2:05-2:07 G
2:08-2:10 C
2:10 and greater MC
Agreed. VIR and Glen times are remarkably similar.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Agreed. VIR and Glen times are remarkably similar.
For years my Glen and VIR times were identical. But as I got faster and faster, the spread became about a second....something about those blue bushes makes me hold a little more in reserve
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+1. I only have one dry day at WG with lots of slow traffic but I never broke 2.10.
I'd get there with more time and ignoring blue bushes...

WG felt more difficult to me.
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Originally Posted by rmag
For years my Glen and VIR times were identical. But as I got faster and faster, the spread became about a second....something about those blue bushes makes me hold a little more in reserve
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+1. I only have one dry day at WG with lots of slow traffic but I never broke 2.10.
I'd get there with more time and ignoring blue bushes...

WG felt more difficult to me.
IMO, vision, and where you are looking, is key to making the blue bushes a non-entity at the Glen. A lot of what I coach advanced drivers & racers on there are specific things to look at in key corners that scare folks so they literally do not see blue. The result of this is faster entry speeds, sooner to WOT at exit, slightly more efficient lines, and a MUCH more relaxed demeanor behind the wheel with no Code Brown moments.
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2 secs is too small of a window for a DE Cup class. We use 5 secs at Sebring, so pro-rated to VIR, 4 secs should be the right window.

Platinum: 2:04 or faster
Gold: 2:04-2:08
Coffee: 2:08-2:12
Moving Chicane: 2:12+
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Sounds about right LOL.
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rad for chief scrutineer position at DE CUP
you know, make sure nobody's cheatin' and put them in the right run group...
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Originally Posted by GT3DE
I probably don't need 2nd gear in t1 or at the top of t14 (roller coaster) - I just like hitting the gas and sliding the rear end.
Best way to make bus stops more fun....
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Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
rad for chief scrutineer position at DE CUP
you know, make sure nobody's cheatin' and put them in the right run group...
Pleepleus for official DE Cup logo seems logical....

https://missinginkshop.com/zanelampr...epleus-sticker
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
2 secs is too small of a window for a DE Cup class. We use 5 secs at Sebring, so pro-rated to VIR, 4 secs should be the right window.

Platinum: 2:04 or faster
Gold: 2:04-2:08
Coffee: 2:08-2:12
Moving Chicane: 2:12+
That's better...

Dave it took me a while to get over all the blue at WG, but once you get over that you barely notice it
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Originally Posted by Mvez
Pleepleus for official DE Cup logo seems logical....

https://missinginkshop.com/zanelampr...epleus-sticker
hahaha!
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Originally Posted by GT3DE
Was told by a couple of different pro racers to do that - so you don't have torque in the throttle as you bounce around and upset the car when your foot is bouncing around, especially since don't need much acceleration thru esses.
Great driving. The higher the speed of the turn, the easier it is to get throttle-on oversteer. Also, the higher the gear, the more precisely you can control the throttle, so use taller gears in high speed turns where throttle balance is more important than acceleration.
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Originally Posted by GT3DE
Was told by a couple of different pro racers to do that - so you don't have torque in the throttle as you bounce around and upset the car when your foot is bouncing around, especially since don't need much acceleration thru esses.
There are many places on many tracks where being in one higher gear is MUCH faster and MUCH more stable...
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
There are many places on many tracks where being in one higher gear is MUCH faster and MUCH more stable...
+1. The .2RS is geared nicely for this, more so than the standard GT3 IMO.
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