Beginner Track Car, not for me
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Yep I guess the world of parenting and raising children to become responsible young adults is going away. What do I know I don't have kids but it seems like teens in today's world don't respect what others have or how hard people that don't get handed wealth work to achieve.
A major part of my job brings me around young 20 something's and I'd estimate that 95% of them have no idea the work, responsibility, sacrifice, street smarts and people skills it takes to do what I do. I get asked questions a lot about how I got my job. When I tell them how most all in my position got our jobs these teens and 20 something's don't know what to say or think. They think they think,they just should be handed everything...from the professional musical instruments to the job I do....geesh I fear what society will be like.![banghead](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/banghead.gif)
Ok rant off...don't care if I offended anyone...get thicker skin...y'all put it out there...now my feelings are in the open on this subject.
A major part of my job brings me around young 20 something's and I'd estimate that 95% of them have no idea the work, responsibility, sacrifice, street smarts and people skills it takes to do what I do. I get asked questions a lot about how I got my job. When I tell them how most all in my position got our jobs these teens and 20 something's don't know what to say or think. They think they think,they just should be handed everything...from the professional musical instruments to the job I do....geesh I fear what society will be like.
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Ok rant off...don't care if I offended anyone...get thicker skin...y'all put it out there...now my feelings are in the open on this subject.
The thing I'd add is that every generation or two, say every 15 years or so, give or take, "we" old generations tend to observe how the current younger generation are imbued with an unquestioning sense of entitlement -- they appear blissfully, almost deliberately ignorant of what prior generations have endured to make all this possible.
This cyclical nature appears in all manner of human existence and brings about whole schools of philosophy and even blockbuster movies like The Matrix. Everything that has gone before will happen again. Those who ignore history are destined to repeat it. Youth is wasted on the young.
I encourage my two children to aim high, to expect more and never settle.
If I were to call for any generation today to rethink its ways, it's the adults today, not the kids. When are the adults going to learn to look after themselves, to vote with knowledge and good conscience, and to demand and end to corruption in their governments? When are the adults going to demand an end to all wars with no exceptions?
These things matter and it's up to the adults to be far less selfish, to plan ahead for themselves and their children. Selfish kids just need a hug, and kick in the pants. : )
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I agree and kind of what I was getting at...adults raise/teach the young ones to become the best they can be....just don't give them everything...teach them how to work, earn, be responsible.
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^^^
Mike again I agree with you completely.
In todays society of immediate gratification and want, it's very difficult but possible for parents still instill values and appreciation of earning what you have.
It's very easy to blow and spend that buck they gave to you BUT when you had to earn that buck you think about it before you spend it.
This isn't the place for this discussion.
I apologize to the OP for going off topic.
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Mike again I agree with you completely.
In todays society of immediate gratification and want, it's very difficult but possible for parents still instill values and appreciation of earning what you have.
It's very easy to blow and spend that buck they gave to you BUT when you had to earn that buck you think about it before you spend it.
This isn't the place for this discussion.
I apologize to the OP for going off topic.
Ranger (Sua Sponte)
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I too apologize for getting a little off topic...typical rennlist huh?...LOL
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Yep I guess the world of parenting and raising children to become responsible young adults is going away. What do I know I don't have kids but it seems like teens in today's world don't respect what others have or how hard people that don't get handed wealth work to achieve.
A major part of my job brings me around young 20 something's and I'd estimate that 95% of them have no idea the work, responsibility, sacrifice, street smarts and people skills it takes to do what I do. I get asked questions a lot about how I got my job. When I tell them how most all in my position got our jobs these teens and 20 something's don't know what to say or think. They think they think,they just should be handed everything...from the professional musical instruments to the job I do....geesh I fear what society will be like.![banghead](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/banghead.gif)
Ok rant off...don't care if I offended anyone...get thicker skin...y'all put it out there...now my feelings are in the open on this subject.
A major part of my job brings me around young 20 something's and I'd estimate that 95% of them have no idea the work, responsibility, sacrifice, street smarts and people skills it takes to do what I do. I get asked questions a lot about how I got my job. When I tell them how most all in my position got our jobs these teens and 20 something's don't know what to say or think. They think they think,they just should be handed everything...from the professional musical instruments to the job I do....geesh I fear what society will be like.
![banghead](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/banghead.gif)
Ok rant off...don't care if I offended anyone...get thicker skin...y'all put it out there...now my feelings are in the open on this subject.
He has outgrown the go carts. We won't buy the track car until he sells the carts and parts.
BTW, I didn't say I wouldn't drive it. I too would like to have something smaller and cheaper to run than the RS at times. He is not spoiled, and I am not rich, I just enjoy spending time with him. We can't afford a 996 gt3, I am thinking a miata or 944, all seem to be around 10k which is what I hope we get out of the carts and parts we sell.
What great feedback from everyone and Mdrums aren't you going to mancationII?
If so see you then...and you can decide what kind of people we are.... I think you will find we are hard workers and like to play even harder...
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Ok I have to comment here on this one. No offense on your rant. There are a ton of kids out there that have no sense of responsibility or reality. Not this kid. Time to brag. He works for our construction company, I mean really works, straight A's in school, and a varsity soccer star, leads the high school ministry at our church. We are almost done building a 1960 vw rag top together so he is learning the mechanical side.
He has outgrown the go carts. We won't buy the track car until he sells the carts and parts.
BTW, I didn't say I wouldn't drive it. I too would like to have something smaller and cheaper to run than the RS at times. He is not spoiled, and I am not rich, I just enjoy spending time with him. We can't afford a 996 gt3, I am thinking a miata or 944, all seem to be around 10k which is what I hope we get out of the carts and parts we sell.
What great feedback from everyone and Mdrums aren't you going to mancationII?
If so see you then...and you can decide what kind of people we are.... I think you will find we are hard workers and like to play even harder...
He has outgrown the go carts. We won't buy the track car until he sells the carts and parts.
BTW, I didn't say I wouldn't drive it. I too would like to have something smaller and cheaper to run than the RS at times. He is not spoiled, and I am not rich, I just enjoy spending time with him. We can't afford a 996 gt3, I am thinking a miata or 944, all seem to be around 10k which is what I hope we get out of the carts and parts we sell.
What great feedback from everyone and Mdrums aren't you going to mancationII?
If so see you then...and you can decide what kind of people we are.... I think you will find we are hard workers and like to play even harder...
Last edited by mdrums; 06-30-2012 at 09:50 AM.
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Mooty,
Are you living under a rock? The aftermarket on this car is totally exploding. I've had my BRZ exactly 3 weeks today and I can buy pretty much anything I want to upgrade it for the track. Hell, the Toyota variant has already won 2 classes at the 24 Hours of the Ring. If I wanted, HKS could build me an engine from scratch with all new proprietary parts. I'll have a sequential gearbox in mine before the snow falls.
As for the topic at hand? I agree with the Miata people. Great car for a kid to learn some real driving skills.
And thank Dog my little girl is still in diapers and I won't have to think about this question personally for 16 years...
Are you living under a rock? The aftermarket on this car is totally exploding. I've had my BRZ exactly 3 weeks today and I can buy pretty much anything I want to upgrade it for the track. Hell, the Toyota variant has already won 2 classes at the 24 Hours of the Ring. If I wanted, HKS could build me an engine from scratch with all new proprietary parts. I'll have a sequential gearbox in mine before the snow falls.
As for the topic at hand? I agree with the Miata people. Great car for a kid to learn some real driving skills.
And thank Dog my little girl is still in diapers and I won't have to think about this question personally for 16 years...
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Mission accomplished.
We took the path of least resistance and found a turn key 944 spec racer on the west coast.
We are in the process of painting and personalizing it this next week.
Thank you again to everyone for your help and suggestions.
We took the path of least resistance and found a turn key 944 spec racer on the west coast.
We are in the process of painting and personalizing it this next week.
Thank you again to everyone for your help and suggestions.
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