Pirelli Trofeo wear after 4 track days w/ pics
#16
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#17
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Not bad for "almost" R6 that you can drive to the track. I think they will be on my car for the next track day at ORP (about 150 miles) since towing my car isn't an option at this point.
#18
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16 HC out of a tire as sticky as a Hoosier that can be driven to the track? For me, this is good news.
I get no more than 20 HC from R888, and those Trofeo can handle another day, so they could easily last 20 HC as well.
Moreover, the camber is not right in your 997TT, all the outside edges have more wear than the inside edges, so with the correct camber, they could last 24 track sessions, or 24 HC, that's 6 track days.
IMHO, the tire is a winner !!!
There is not such thing as a tire that lasts 1,000 HC, and provides the grip of a Hoosier R6.
I'm getting a set ASAP for the Fiat, thanks.
I get no more than 20 HC from R888, and those Trofeo can handle another day, so they could easily last 20 HC as well.
Moreover, the camber is not right in your 997TT, all the outside edges have more wear than the inside edges, so with the correct camber, they could last 24 track sessions, or 24 HC, that's 6 track days.
IMHO, the tire is a winner !!!
There is not such thing as a tire that lasts 1,000 HC, and provides the grip of a Hoosier R6.
I'm getting a set ASAP for the Fiat, thanks.
#19
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Doc GTO, how would you describe your driving style on track? Your results are drastically different from my first hand experience with a TT driven hard. In my case, the outer shoulders got completely obliterated in a matter of 5 heat cycles in 1 day. Granted that particular TT had less than optimal camber, the wear was way above yours...
#20
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For a car like mine that see's 50/50 track and street I'd hat to go with more camber than -2.5f and -2r. The street drivability would not be good I would think.
Hopefully the R series of Trofeo will be out soon and the side wall will be a little more stiff..who even knows?
Hopefully the R series of Trofeo will be out soon and the side wall will be a little more stiff..who even knows?
#21
Burning Brakes
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#22
Burning Brakes
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Doc GTO, how would you describe your driving style on track? Your results are drastically different from my first hand experience with a TT driven hard. In my case, the outer shoulders got completely obliterated in a matter of 5 heat cycles in 1 day. Granted that particular TT had less than optimal camber, the wear was way above yours...
I also have good camber specs and GMG springs & sway bars to reduce body roll.
Here is a 3 lap video on these tires at RRR:
#23
Burning Brakes
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16 HC out of a tire as sticky as a Hoosier that can be driven to the track? For me, this is good news.
I get no more than 20 HC from R888, and those Trofeo can handle another day, so they could easily last 20 HC as well.
Moreover, the camber is not right in your 997TT, all the outside edges have more wear than the inside edges, so with the correct camber, they could last 24 track sessions, or 24 HC, that's 6 track days.
IMHO, the tire is a winner !!!
There is not such thing as a tire that lasts 1,000 HC, and provides the grip of a Hoosier R6.
I'm getting a set ASAP for the Fiat, thanks.
I get no more than 20 HC from R888, and those Trofeo can handle another day, so they could easily last 20 HC as well.
Moreover, the camber is not right in your 997TT, all the outside edges have more wear than the inside edges, so with the correct camber, they could last 24 track sessions, or 24 HC, that's 6 track days.
IMHO, the tire is a winner !!!
There is not such thing as a tire that lasts 1,000 HC, and provides the grip of a Hoosier R6.
I'm getting a set ASAP for the Fiat, thanks.
Best bet is http://www.frisbyracetire.com/
When the newer Trofeo R comes out, that will be the ticket!!!
#25
Burning Brakes
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#27
Doc- fronts look as good as it gets for Trofeos. Rears are over inflated- **don't exceed 30psi hot** Camber is fine.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
#28
Burning Brakes
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Doc- fronts look as good as it gets for Trofeos. Rears are over inflated- **don't exceed 30psi hot** Camber is fine.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
#29
Race Director
#30
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If Doc is putting down 1:19 at Roebling I'd say he's fast....GT3 RS on better suspension does this same time or a second better with very good drivers that I know.