Any 4.0's for sale?
04-30-2012, 08:10 PM
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I'm being serious. The power, handling, and sound of the car was phenomenal. Very forgiving too as compared to the GT3, but also a thrill to drive. I was looking for 3.8 RS or preferably a 4.0, but buying a scud and keeping my "regular" GT3 is starting to look more promising. Two different, but very able track cars. Trust me, I'm a Porsche guy (look what I own), but the fiat was sex on wheels and is calling my name, I think. I may need to branch out.
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04-30-2012, 09:13 PM
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The Scud will be a once a year track car and cars and coffee Sunday driver. There's gonna be a track car in the garage...
04-30-2012, 09:26 PM
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That's a good choice for a once a year track car. Remember that the prices on those cars go down with the mileage. 10K each 1k miles. Track time costs you around 2K a day just on stock pads. Other than that, the car is amazing. If you're ready for a FIAT, that's the one to have. It's always a love an hate affair.
04-30-2012, 10:05 PM
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That's a good choice for a once a year track car. Remember that the prices on those cars go down with the mileage. 10K each 1k miles. Track time costs you around 2K a day just on stock pads. Other than that, the car is amazing. If you're ready for a FIAT, that's the one to have. It's always a love an hate affair.
Agree with the love/hate, but I will tell you- I was regretful after selling my Strad. Gonna just drive and enjoy this one.
04-30-2012, 10:24 PM
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$2k for pads? I can't believe 430 challenge pads are $2k. I think Rad says that's all I need other than the usual fresh fluids for a track day. Rad- is that right?
Agree with the love/hate, but I will tell you- I was regretful after selling my Strad. Gonna just drive and enjoy this one.
Agree with the love/hate, but I will tell you- I was regretful after selling my Strad. Gonna just drive and enjoy this one.
Stradale stock pads (front and rear): $4,000
F430 Challenge pads (front and rear): $2,600
There are better pad options than the F430 Challenge pads, longer lasting and cheaper, and no need to swap them back to stock pads for street use.
04-30-2012, 10:30 PM
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That's a good choice for a once a year track car. Remember that the prices on those cars go down with the mileage. 10K each 1k miles. Track time costs you around 2K a day just on stock pads. Other than that, the car is amazing. If you're ready for a FIAT, that's the one to have. It's always a love an hate affair.
Based on current pricing, they take $20k hit on the first 10k miles, then $1 per mile thereafter. Plenty of F430 with plenty more miles selling for strong prices.
At my last Sebring event (2 days with NASA), I used 1mm of my front pads and less than 1mm from the rear pads. New pads come at 10mm thick on material.
However, I had 2 sets of pads that lasted one day at Sebring: my stock front pads (over a year ago, by mistake I packed my street pads with my spares), and the Carbotech XP20 that went down to ashes in less than 90 minutes at Sebring.
04-30-2012, 10:35 PM
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I'm being serious. The power, handling, and sound of the car was phenomenal. Very forgiving too as compared to the GT3, but also a thrill to drive. I was looking for 3.8 RS or preferably a 4.0, but buying a scud and keeping my "regular" GT3 is starting to look more promising. Two different, but very able track cars. Trust me, I'm a Porsche guy (look what I own), but the fiat was sex on wheels and is calling my name, I think. I may need to branch out.
Please don't ban me.
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04-30-2012, 10:41 PM
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Incorrect.
Based on current pricing, they take $20k hit on the first 10k miles, then $1 per mile thereafter. Plenty of F430 with plenty more miles selling for strong prices.
At my last Sebring event (2 days with NASA), I used 1mm of my front pads and less than 1mm from the rear pads. New pads come at 10mm thick on material.
However, I had 2 sets of pads that lasted one day at Sebring: my stock front pads (over a year ago, by mistake I packed my street pads with my spares), and the Carbotech XP20 that went down to ashes in less than 90 minutes at Sebring.
Based on current pricing, they take $20k hit on the first 10k miles, then $1 per mile thereafter. Plenty of F430 with plenty more miles selling for strong prices.
At my last Sebring event (2 days with NASA), I used 1mm of my front pads and less than 1mm from the rear pads. New pads come at 10mm thick on material.
However, I had 2 sets of pads that lasted one day at Sebring: my stock front pads (over a year ago, by mistake I packed my street pads with my spares), and the Carbotech XP20 that went down to ashes in less than 90 minutes at Sebring.
I remember Paul replacing pads after one day on his 458.
Now that you have steel, you are back to real prices, and being able to use good pads also.
04-30-2012, 11:24 PM
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Scuderia prices have stayed firm the last 24 months. The only cars getting cheaper are the ones accumulating miles.
Currently they are in between $160k-$185k depending on mileage, year and options. So, $50k cheaper than a 4.0RS.
Most of them are not even broken-in, the entire chassis and body is aluminum (no corrosion), and the rest is Carbon Fiber and Alcantara.
I'm awaiting my Endless pads (bought two different compounds to test them). Car is faster on steel brakes.
No limp-mode, no leaking stuff, the best ever diff, a racing transmission, long lasting clutch, and now affordable brakes.
My steel brakes are made by Brembo, my current pads by Pagid. Front rotors are 405mm and rear 350mm.
Its lightweight construction makes it very toss-able, it is almost 200 lbs lighter than a standard 3.8 GT3 RS.
There are somewhere around 600 units in the U.S. market, and all of them have been reliable. Fiat used them for the Fiat Driving Experience school, these cars lived as permanent track cars, most of them with 8,000 dedicated track miles. The F430 Challenge (factory race car) has a 200 hours life span on the engine. Brand new engines are affordable, so a rebuild might cost more.
Currently they are in between $160k-$185k depending on mileage, year and options. So, $50k cheaper than a 4.0RS.
Most of them are not even broken-in, the entire chassis and body is aluminum (no corrosion), and the rest is Carbon Fiber and Alcantara.
I'm awaiting my Endless pads (bought two different compounds to test them). Car is faster on steel brakes.
No limp-mode, no leaking stuff, the best ever diff, a racing transmission, long lasting clutch, and now affordable brakes.
My steel brakes are made by Brembo, my current pads by Pagid. Front rotors are 405mm and rear 350mm.
Its lightweight construction makes it very toss-able, it is almost 200 lbs lighter than a standard 3.8 GT3 RS.
There are somewhere around 600 units in the U.S. market, and all of them have been reliable. Fiat used them for the Fiat Driving Experience school, these cars lived as permanent track cars, most of them with 8,000 dedicated track miles. The F430 Challenge (factory race car) has a 200 hours life span on the engine. Brand new engines are affordable, so a rebuild might cost more.
05-01-2012, 12:44 AM
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I know, I talk to them every year. maybe at some pt they throw me a bone lol. seriously though, I know I won't b able to get a new car as I don't have the money to run imsa, WC, etc and more importantly no real talent. however dream is free and I'm awfully fast in my dreams.
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05-01-2012, 01:16 AM
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05-01-2012, 08:12 AM
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05-01-2012, 10:03 AM
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You FL boys crack me up... I have a way that you can burn money just as fast as continuing to trade up for the latest GT3.. Start RACING! Keep your 3.8 as it is a gorgeous car!! Take the $100K and by a 996 Cup or 996 Race Car. Keep the Extra $40K for Tires and consumables as you'll need it! You'll never look back.