Centerlocks - I'm out! ....Hello 5-lug conversion!
10-06-2012, 04:30 AM
#181
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10-06-2012, 04:14 PM
#182
The irony is that Porsche broke every single one of their commandments 2 years ago in the NBRG 24 hour when they showed us how great these gen 2 cars are with their RS entry... They ran aftermarket BBS wheels in 18s with slicks, they rattled wheels on and off and did F%k all greasing procedures and got by just fine...
10-08-2012, 12:56 PM
#183
SOS, two years after the CL's have been out and all the instructions and warnings. The shops don't care, and the owners don't care (splines not engaged).
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...dv-wb-win.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...dv-wb-win.html
Last edited by savyboy; 10-08-2012 at 01:17 PM. Reason: clarify
10-08-2012, 01:02 PM
#184
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^ LOL. Like ADV is a name that any serious track guy is gonna use.
The ironic thing is, CL will probably work on an abonination like that, 20" and boneheaded offsets (read: reduced thread bite) notwithstanding. So far the only catastrophic failures have been associated with track used cars subject to frequent wheel changes. How often do you think that franken-20" is gonna swap wheels?
The ironic thing is, CL will probably work on an abonination like that, 20" and boneheaded offsets (read: reduced thread bite) notwithstanding. So far the only catastrophic failures have been associated with track used cars subject to frequent wheel changes. How often do you think that franken-20" is gonna swap wheels?
10-08-2012, 02:21 PM
#185
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I'm getting a little tired of being one of Porsche's center lock misuse good will ambassadors. In the past month alone, I think I have pointed out 4 cars with incorrectly installed wheels most of which came from dealer service centers. Each time, I politely walk the owner (if interested) through the proper techniques based on Porsche's service bulletin. 50% of the time, the owners think I'm some **** freak. That is, until they look up the picture of one of the catastrophic failures.
One dealer service tech went so far as to correct me and tell me that a partially pushed in pin was perfectly fine. I emailed him Porsche's own insert showing the proper flush orientation. It was followed my a massive "oh ****!" moment and a promise that all techs would be instructed on the proper methods. Too little too late IMHO.
I try to look out for my fellow car enthusiasts as I hope someone would do the same for me if I was a typical cars n coffee drover. Just getting tired of it and of the myriad of other problems that go along with these cars. No car is perfect but I would prefer to deal with the type of idiosyncracies that won't kill me or require me to fix things on my own dime which should have been at the factory. /rant
One dealer service tech went so far as to correct me and tell me that a partially pushed in pin was perfectly fine. I emailed him Porsche's own insert showing the proper flush orientation. It was followed my a massive "oh ****!" moment and a promise that all techs would be instructed on the proper methods. Too little too late IMHO.
I try to look out for my fellow car enthusiasts as I hope someone would do the same for me if I was a typical cars n coffee drover. Just getting tired of it and of the myriad of other problems that go along with these cars. No car is perfect but I would prefer to deal with the type of idiosyncracies that won't kill me or require me to fix things on my own dime which should have been at the factory. /rant
10-08-2012, 02:32 PM
#186
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As I recently told Chris, when my car recently came back from dealer, 3 or 4 center splines were not engaged.
And damn did they put those little "RS" center caps on tight! I don't know how they got them on so tight, but I bent each one trying to get it off. I never use them actually - just put them on to make dealer happy.
And damn did they put those little "RS" center caps on tight! I don't know how they got them on so tight, but I bent each one trying to get it off. I never use them actually - just put them on to make dealer happy.
10-08-2012, 02:58 PM
#187
I'm getting a little tired of being one of Porsche's center lock misuse good will ambassadors. In the past month alone, I think I have pointed out 4 cars with incorrectly installed wheels most of which came from dealer service centers. Each time, I politely walk the owner (if interested) through the proper techniques based on Porsche's service bulletin. 50% of the time, the owners think I'm some **** freak. That is, until they look up the picture of one of the catastrophic failures.
One dealer service tech went so far as to correct me and tell me that a partially pushed in pin was perfectly fine. I emailed him Porsche's own insert showing the proper flush orientation. It was followed my a massive "oh ****!" moment and a promise that all techs would be instructed on the proper methods. Too little too late IMHO.
I try to look out for my fellow car enthusiasts as I hope someone would do the same for me if I was a typical cars n coffee drover. Just getting tired of it and of the myriad of other problems that go along with these cars. No car is perfect but I would prefer to deal with the type of idiosyncracies that won't kill me or require me to fix things on my own dime which should have been at the factory. /rant
One dealer service tech went so far as to correct me and tell me that a partially pushed in pin was perfectly fine. I emailed him Porsche's own insert showing the proper flush orientation. It was followed my a massive "oh ****!" moment and a promise that all techs would be instructed on the proper methods. Too little too late IMHO.
I try to look out for my fellow car enthusiasts as I hope someone would do the same for me if I was a typical cars n coffee drover. Just getting tired of it and of the myriad of other problems that go along with these cars. No car is perfect but I would prefer to deal with the type of idiosyncracies that won't kill me or require me to fix things on my own dime which should have been at the factory. /rant
10-09-2012, 06:28 AM
#188
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SOS, two years after the CL's have been out and all the instructions and warnings. The shops don't care, and the owners don't care (splines not engaged).
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...dv-wb-win.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...dv-wb-win.html
10-09-2012, 09:16 PM
#189
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Acccording to PCA, a recall has been initiated:
http://strongmail.multiview.com/trac...=50743d7ad3b8b
This is the link that came in my email, but it does not talk about the CL specifically. One needs to go through the steps and input year, model number etc.
http://strongmail.multiview.com/trac...=50743d7ad3b8b
This is the link that came in my email, but it does not talk about the CL specifically. One needs to go through the steps and input year, model number etc.
10-09-2012, 09:18 PM
#190
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It's the one that was issued last year where they changed the nuts and inspected the hubs. Nothing new.
10-09-2012, 09:22 PM
#191
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Chris, I just got the email which stated "Porsche recalls now on www.pca.org - centerlock wheel recall issued by Porsche."
10-09-2012, 09:33 PM
#193
Chris, I just got the email which stated "Porsche recalls now on www.pca.org - centerlock wheel recall issued by Porsche."
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/results.cfm
10-09-2012, 09:40 PM
#194
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My bad :-( Having just been a lurker on the issue and not having CL's and just getting the email from PCA I thought it was timely.
10-11-2012, 07:59 PM
#195
I'm getting a little tired of being one of Porsche's center lock misuse good will ambassadors. In the past month alone, I think I have pointed out 4 cars with incorrectly installed wheels most of which came from dealer service centers. Each time, I politely walk the owner (if interested) through the proper techniques based on Porsche's service bulletin. 50% of the time, the owners think I'm some **** freak. That is, until they look up the picture of one of the catastrophic failures.
One dealer service tech went so far as to correct me and tell me that a partially pushed in pin was perfectly fine. I emailed him Porsche's own insert showing the proper flush orientation. It was followed my a massive "oh ****!" moment and a promise that all techs would be instructed on the proper methods. Too little too late IMHO.
I try to look out for my fellow car enthusiasts as I hope someone would do the same for me if I was a typical cars n coffee drover. Just getting tired of it and of the myriad of other problems that go along with these cars. No car is perfect but I would prefer to deal with the type of idiosyncracies that won't kill me or require me to fix things on my own dime which should have been at the factory. /rant
One dealer service tech went so far as to correct me and tell me that a partially pushed in pin was perfectly fine. I emailed him Porsche's own insert showing the proper flush orientation. It was followed my a massive "oh ****!" moment and a promise that all techs would be instructed on the proper methods. Too little too late IMHO.
I try to look out for my fellow car enthusiasts as I hope someone would do the same for me if I was a typical cars n coffee drover. Just getting tired of it and of the myriad of other problems that go along with these cars. No car is perfect but I would prefer to deal with the type of idiosyncracies that won't kill me or require me to fix things on my own dime which should have been at the factory. /rant
Best one I heard was:
"no need to mess around with those splines. They will pop into place automatically when driving"
