997gt3north

Looks like there are a few possibilities, but I would like to have an idea if there is a source out there with good prices.

I spoke with an US based East Coast distributor that has knowledge of a few cars using the ME20 pad. Of particular interest was the fact that he stated, and I absolutely double checked with him, was that the Endless ME20 pad works with a Yellow (PCCB) caliper without ANY alterations with a 997 Cupcar rotor swapped into a PCCB car - this fact, if true, is a very different result than Mikymu reported with Pagid Pads.

The pads I'm looking for prices / feedback on are:
- ME20 (Street / DE that is ceramic compatible
- MA45B (this is an enduro / 24hr NRing race pad apparently ceramic compatible - this sounds interesting)
- W007 (ceramic race)
- W008 (ceramic street / DE)
http://www.endlessdata.info/Racing%2...et%20(web).pdf

Sounds like the ME20 doesn't last much longer than the stock OE Ceramic pad (mechanic feedback)

P.J.S.

Slightly OT - but you can order an RS 29 pad that will work with cup rotor, just not the standard RS 29... I don't have the part number handy but I just ordered a set and was told application guide says "RS/Cup" and the pads are "scalloped" by pagid to work with the cup rotors....

I know gmg sells the endless stuff which is the winner of their independent testing etc etc etc

fc-racer

Hi Paul, Endless is distributed by Paragon in Canada (Joe Chan, a fellow racer owns the shop) @ http://paragoncompetition.com/produc...l/endless.html

I buy my fluid from there and love the feel it gives the brakes. I'm also going to try the pads when my RS-19's wear out.

fc-racer

Paul, forgot to add that Endless recommended either the N35S or the ME20 for my factory steel setup.

997gt3north

I think Mikymu showed in his writeup that it still required him to file down the thickness of the pad (the correct ones that you point out) as they would not allow the rotor to spin freely because the cup rotor has a very slightly different offset than the PCCB rotor and it did not sit in the true center of the caliper (see his DIY) - thus i'm guessing that the Endless ME20 must have less pad material (probably similar to the stock P40 pad versus the Green P50 pad)

jenk12m

I just started using the me-20 and have done 4 weekends now with them. I just flipped the front pads due to the tapering, but the should be good to go for a few more events. Shoot izzone a pm, he hooked me up on where to get some. I just can't remember right now, I need to go back through several e-mails

997gt3north

Thamks

Farz, Randy & Jenk12m


Paul

P.J.S.

okay... good to know... thank you...

I will find out shortly

jenk12m

off topic- pj you've been avoiding me on words with friends. lol

P.J.S.

check again... I thought it was your rematch... I just started...

I miss getting my a$$ beat by you 90% of the time

Izzone

U beat my *** too

Pj pm me ur wff login

P.J.S.

sent

TRD0524

What Endless pad you go with really depends on what track you race on, and what tires you have. Also, what was the previous pads you were on.

mdrums

Track: Sebring mostly
Tires: Rennlist Offical Most Hated Tire - Toyo R888
Previous Pads: Pagid Yellow RS29 front RS14 Black rear
Car: 2009 "lowly" Carrera S -same brakes as 996 Turbo and 2005- 997S

997gt3north

Over the last 4 years I have run stock OE tires a bunch, R888, R6 and now trying Pilot Super Sports. This summer will be a Pilot Super Sport & R6 year.

I went through 4 sets of the OE pads and now exclusively use The Porsche Pagid P50 pads.

I like the P40 smoothness of release point
I wish the P40 had better bite / more friction
The P40 lasts 3-4 tracks (not very good)
You notice 'some' fade when very hot - not bad but some

The P50 when hot has good bite
The P50 is absolutely unfadable
It has to be kept super hot - if not super hot, it is difficult to be smooth.
P50 can last 8-10 trackdays

So, what is a combo pad that would combine the P40 / P50?

The track I most care about is Mosport. To be fast at Mosport you need to have very high entry speed / trail braking into fast corners so predictable smooth trail braking release is very important.

And, why is it that the MA45B and W007, W008 appear to cost 2.5x what the ME20s cost?