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Old 06-02-2011, 01:06 AM
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I have ME20 on my car right now, great pads! The modulation is not the greatest, but performance is definitely there.

No mushy feeling until it's pretty much toast... And they last too!

I had PFC01s, really good pads but don't have a long life.
Old 06-02-2011, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
See that is the thing...I can't find anyone that has run Pagid Yellows and now runs Endless ME20.

I'd love to try these out to compare with the Performance Friction PFC97's and Pagid Yellows I've run but I hate to spend serious bucks and find that they are mushy or wear rotors faster or not last as long as Pagid Yellows.
I have been running the Pagid Yellow 29's. The question that needs to be answered about the Endless ME20's is whether you can drive them FLAT OUT
Old 06-02-2011, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lawjdc
I have been running the Pagid Yellow 29's. The question that needs to be answered about the Endless ME20's is whether you can drive them FLAT OUT
Yes as we all drive FLAT OUT....LOL good one!

I know and trust Pagid Yellows and I know and trust PFC's....I don't know anythng about Endless pads and don't want to shell out Pagid pad money to try the unknown.
Old 06-02-2011, 10:07 AM
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I'm also waiting to see how Trakcar ends up liking the Performance Friction PFC08 pads he is trying out. Trakcar has experience with Pagid Yellows so his comparison to the PFC08 will be nice to hear.
Only one day on them so far, but I will have 11+ days one them before July 20th..
Old 06-02-2011, 10:32 AM
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If I remember correct....ME20 was good for abot 8-10 days (Sebring)

At the end of its life the pedal would drop, but i liked the feel
Old 06-02-2011, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzone
If I remember correct....ME20 was good for abot 8-10 days (Sebring)

At the end of its life the pedal would drop, but i liked the feel
You mean pedal would go mushy, or the pedal travel was longer?

I drive in Sebring as fast and as safely as I can, the brakes are the last on my "worry list" with there pads...
Old 06-04-2011, 10:46 PM
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Izzone: (I didn't see any comments on this in this thread)

Have you heard about the PMNA fix for the ceramic piston button issue? I'm aware the IMSA GT3 & ALMS GTC teams were sending their calipers back to PMNA for new pistons or whatever the fix was. the issue was during pad changes, as necessary for Sebring 12 Hrs, it was possible to knock the ceramic buttons off the pistons. So PMNA came out with a fix. I think (not completely certain) it was a set of new pistons. They may have been titanium but I don't know for certain.

Also you can use the Stoptech pistons. Stoptech has 2 sizes (depth of piston) and you want the 32 mm depth one (I don't recall off hand if this is their "Long" or "Short" piston, but I know the measurement) I think your calipers are 32/30/28 mm pistons as opposed to the earlier 6 piston which was 38/32/28 mm pistons. The Stoptech pistons are relatively inexpensive and will fit perfectly inculding with the same dust boots you have.
Old 06-04-2011, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by autokurl
Izzone: (I didn't see any comments on this in this thread)

Have you heard about the PMNA fix for the ceramic piston button issue? I'm aware the IMSA GT3 & ALMS GTC teams were sending their calipers back to PMNA for new pistons or whatever the fix was. the issue was during pad changes, as necessary for Sebring 12 Hrs, it was possible to knock the ceramic buttons off the pistons. So PMNA came out with a fix. I think (not completely certain) it was a set of new pistons. They may have been titanium but I don't know for certain.

Also you can use the Stoptech pistons. Stoptech has 2 sizes (depth of piston) and you want the 32 mm depth one (I don't recall off hand if this is their "Long" or "Short" piston, but I know the measurement) I think your calipers are 32/30/28 mm pistons as opposed to the earlier 6 piston which was 38/32/28 mm pistons. The Stoptech pistons are relatively inexpensive and will fit perfectly inculding with the same dust boots you have.
I think you are maybe referring to the metal claws that hold the ceramic pucks in?

I have installed those
Old 06-04-2011, 11:19 PM
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Yes, Izzone has the clips that hold the pucks in.

An alternative is the updated titanium pistons.

I have the .PDF somewhere that describes the part numbers and what they do with the calipers. Cost is $2000.00 and if I'm not mistaken includes work on the caliper, so we went with the pucks just for the convenience of not having to fish picks out of the rotors
I could not figure out if there would be another benefit of the pucks and cliper mod and due to cost was not that interested to dig deeper.
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Googled it:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2011/gt3/b...%202011-01.pdf

These are the clups to hold the pucks in we are using instead:
http://www.gt2gt3cup.org/showthread.php?t=53&page=2
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I looked at both links.... interesting. I had heard about the PMNA fix but hadn't seen exactly what it was.

One thing I did notice however on the GT2GT3Cup site was the folks talking about their dust boots being gone. I'm assuming this was due to heat? Would I be correct?
Old 06-04-2011, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by autokurl
I looked at both links.... interesting. I had heard about the PMNA fix but hadn't seen exactly what it was.

One thing I did notice however on the GT2GT3Cup site was the folks talking about their dust boots being gone. I'm assuming this was due to heat? Would I be correct?
Yep, my dust boots are cracked gone
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In that case, when was the last time you rebuilt the calipers? i.e. popped out the pistons and replaced the O-rings? And if you have done that recently why did you not replace the dut boots?

Not trying to bust your chops, just curious....
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Originally Posted by autokurl
In that case, when was the last time you rebuilt the calipers? i.e. popped out the pistons and replaced the O-rings? And if you have done that recently why did you not replace the dut boots?

Not trying to bust your chops, just curious....
My car is maybe 3 to four months old to me, can't remember exactly

12 de days, 1700 or so track miles

Your question is valid, but I have not addressed how often they need to be replaced
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Googled it:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2011/gt3/b...%202011-01.pdf

These are the clups to hold the pucks in we are using instead:
http://www.gt2gt3cup.org/showthread.php?t=53&page=2
Interesting that they use all Performance Friction parts too...


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