Giesha gets Endless Brakes
#61
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I have ME20 on my car right now, great pads! The modulation is not the greatest, but performance is definitely there.
No mushy feeling until it's pretty much toast... And they last too!
I had PFC01s, really good pads but don't have a long life.
No mushy feeling until it's pretty much toast... And they last too!
I had PFC01s, really good pads but don't have a long life.
#62
See that is the thing...I can't find anyone that has run Pagid Yellows and now runs Endless ME20.
I'd love to try these out to compare with the Performance Friction PFC97's and Pagid Yellows I've run but I hate to spend serious bucks and find that they are mushy or wear rotors faster or not last as long as Pagid Yellows.
I'd love to try these out to compare with the Performance Friction PFC97's and Pagid Yellows I've run but I hate to spend serious bucks and find that they are mushy or wear rotors faster or not last as long as Pagid Yellows.
#63
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I know and trust Pagid Yellows and I know and trust PFC's....I don't know anythng about Endless pads and don't want to shell out Pagid pad money to try the unknown.
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I'm also waiting to see how Trakcar ends up liking the Performance Friction PFC08 pads he is trying out. Trakcar has experience with Pagid Yellows so his comparison to the PFC08 will be nice to hear.
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Izzone: (I didn't see any comments on this in this thread)
Have you heard about the PMNA fix for the ceramic piston button issue? I'm aware the IMSA GT3 & ALMS GTC teams were sending their calipers back to PMNA for new pistons or whatever the fix was. the issue was during pad changes, as necessary for Sebring 12 Hrs, it was possible to knock the ceramic buttons off the pistons. So PMNA came out with a fix. I think (not completely certain) it was a set of new pistons. They may have been titanium but I don't know for certain.
Also you can use the Stoptech pistons. Stoptech has 2 sizes (depth of piston) and you want the 32 mm depth one (I don't recall off hand if this is their "Long" or "Short" piston, but I know the measurement) I think your calipers are 32/30/28 mm pistons as opposed to the earlier 6 piston which was 38/32/28 mm pistons. The Stoptech pistons are relatively inexpensive and will fit perfectly inculding with the same dust boots you have.
Have you heard about the PMNA fix for the ceramic piston button issue? I'm aware the IMSA GT3 & ALMS GTC teams were sending their calipers back to PMNA for new pistons or whatever the fix was. the issue was during pad changes, as necessary for Sebring 12 Hrs, it was possible to knock the ceramic buttons off the pistons. So PMNA came out with a fix. I think (not completely certain) it was a set of new pistons. They may have been titanium but I don't know for certain.
Also you can use the Stoptech pistons. Stoptech has 2 sizes (depth of piston) and you want the 32 mm depth one (I don't recall off hand if this is their "Long" or "Short" piston, but I know the measurement) I think your calipers are 32/30/28 mm pistons as opposed to the earlier 6 piston which was 38/32/28 mm pistons. The Stoptech pistons are relatively inexpensive and will fit perfectly inculding with the same dust boots you have.
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Izzone: (I didn't see any comments on this in this thread)
Have you heard about the PMNA fix for the ceramic piston button issue? I'm aware the IMSA GT3 & ALMS GTC teams were sending their calipers back to PMNA for new pistons or whatever the fix was. the issue was during pad changes, as necessary for Sebring 12 Hrs, it was possible to knock the ceramic buttons off the pistons. So PMNA came out with a fix. I think (not completely certain) it was a set of new pistons. They may have been titanium but I don't know for certain.
Also you can use the Stoptech pistons. Stoptech has 2 sizes (depth of piston) and you want the 32 mm depth one (I don't recall off hand if this is their "Long" or "Short" piston, but I know the measurement) I think your calipers are 32/30/28 mm pistons as opposed to the earlier 6 piston which was 38/32/28 mm pistons. The Stoptech pistons are relatively inexpensive and will fit perfectly inculding with the same dust boots you have.
Have you heard about the PMNA fix for the ceramic piston button issue? I'm aware the IMSA GT3 & ALMS GTC teams were sending their calipers back to PMNA for new pistons or whatever the fix was. the issue was during pad changes, as necessary for Sebring 12 Hrs, it was possible to knock the ceramic buttons off the pistons. So PMNA came out with a fix. I think (not completely certain) it was a set of new pistons. They may have been titanium but I don't know for certain.
Also you can use the Stoptech pistons. Stoptech has 2 sizes (depth of piston) and you want the 32 mm depth one (I don't recall off hand if this is their "Long" or "Short" piston, but I know the measurement) I think your calipers are 32/30/28 mm pistons as opposed to the earlier 6 piston which was 38/32/28 mm pistons. The Stoptech pistons are relatively inexpensive and will fit perfectly inculding with the same dust boots you have.
I have installed those
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Yes, Izzone has the clips that hold the pucks in.
An alternative is the updated titanium pistons.
I have the .PDF somewhere that describes the part numbers and what they do with the calipers. Cost is $2000.00 and if I'm not mistaken includes work on the caliper, so we went with the pucks just for the convenience of not having to fish picks out of the rotors
I could not figure out if there would be another benefit of the pucks and cliper mod and due to cost was not that interested to dig deeper.
An alternative is the updated titanium pistons.
I have the .PDF somewhere that describes the part numbers and what they do with the calipers. Cost is $2000.00 and if I'm not mistaken includes work on the caliper, so we went with the pucks just for the convenience of not having to fish picks out of the rotors
I could not figure out if there would be another benefit of the pucks and cliper mod and due to cost was not that interested to dig deeper.
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Googled it:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2011/gt3/b...%202011-01.pdf
These are the clups to hold the pucks in we are using instead:
http://www.gt2gt3cup.org/showthread.php?t=53&page=2
http://www.imsaracing.net/2011/gt3/b...%202011-01.pdf
These are the clups to hold the pucks in we are using instead:
http://www.gt2gt3cup.org/showthread.php?t=53&page=2
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I looked at both links.... interesting. I had heard about the PMNA fix but hadn't seen exactly what it was.
One thing I did notice however on the GT2GT3Cup site was the folks talking about their dust boots being gone. I'm assuming this was due to heat? Would I be correct?
One thing I did notice however on the GT2GT3Cup site was the folks talking about their dust boots being gone. I'm assuming this was due to heat? Would I be correct?
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I looked at both links.... interesting. I had heard about the PMNA fix but hadn't seen exactly what it was.
One thing I did notice however on the GT2GT3Cup site was the folks talking about their dust boots being gone. I'm assuming this was due to heat? Would I be correct?
One thing I did notice however on the GT2GT3Cup site was the folks talking about their dust boots being gone. I'm assuming this was due to heat? Would I be correct?
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In that case, when was the last time you rebuilt the calipers? i.e. popped out the pistons and replaced the O-rings? And if you have done that recently why did you not replace the dut boots?
Not trying to bust your chops, just curious....
Not trying to bust your chops, just curious....
#74
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12 de days, 1700 or so track miles
Your question is valid, but I have not addressed how often they need to be replaced
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Googled it:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2011/gt3/b...%202011-01.pdf
These are the clups to hold the pucks in we are using instead:
http://www.gt2gt3cup.org/showthread.php?t=53&page=2
http://www.imsaracing.net/2011/gt3/b...%202011-01.pdf
These are the clups to hold the pucks in we are using instead:
http://www.gt2gt3cup.org/showthread.php?t=53&page=2