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LastMezger Sep 27, 2010 09:09 PM

Centrelocks. What's the problem?
 
I'm leaning towards a GTS and I like the idea of centrelocks from the "oh, that's cool" perspective.

That said, I've done a lot of track driving in the past and will probably use this car in some capacity as a weekend track toy. Before we go any farther I'll address the "Why don't you get a GT3?" pundits...I'd like to have the back seats and the car will see a lot of dd duty.

So the question is - why are the CL such an issue? I've read a number of the threads and it seems that if you have the right wrench and use the right technique that it's not that big of deal. It's not like I'm going to be making pit stops every 30 minutes or anything;-)

Bob Rouleau Sep 27, 2010 10:36 PM

If you read the thread on the 997 GT3 forum you would know the answer.

LastMezger Sep 27, 2010 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau (Post 7930117)
If you read the thread on the 997 GT3 forum you would know the answer.

I did and it seems like there have been some problems as well as some owners who haven't had any problems.

mooty Sep 28, 2010 12:31 AM

it's new
teething issues
and old fart like me loves to bitch and moan about it.
like anything new. we will get used to it. not that i will like it. but get used to it.

996FLT6 Sep 28, 2010 12:47 AM

Hopefully the 500hp RS will have air jacks as a no cost option : ). Mike

mooty Sep 28, 2010 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by 996FLT6 (Post 7930500)
Hopefully the 500hp RS will have air jacks as a no cost option : ). Mike

like a cup car :D

Nizer Sep 28, 2010 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by mooty (Post 7930506)
like a cup car :D

With Cup car centerlocks :thumbup:

rost12 Sep 28, 2010 08:16 AM

1. You need more/different tools to remove the wheels. (bigger torque wrench, bigger breaker bar, etc).
2. Issues may arise if you do not install the wheels as per Porsche's procedure.

In other words it just somewhat more complicated than the old set up we all were used to, for really no benefit to us as consumers. The weight reduction is negligible. Pure marketing effort by Porsche, thus the resentment.

In real life for occasional track use (as in you won't be swapping wheels in the paddock every time, just arrive and drive on what you've brought), it's no biggie. The shop I take my car to service Cups as well, so they knew the procedure for CL wheels anyway (and my Porsche Service center didn't, as usual).

Condor Man Sep 28, 2010 08:44 AM

On a side note.

Why would anyone buy a GTS over a Stock GT3??

I assume that they will be about the same $$???

amaist Sep 28, 2010 09:16 AM

GTS over GT3 makes sense if the car will be driven daily. The GTS will do it better and be more practical.

jumper5836 Sep 28, 2010 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Condor Man (Post 7930832)
On a side note.

Why would anyone buy a GTS over a Stock GT3??

I assume that they will be about the same $$???

Option for PDK.
Keep the clean look with no rear wing, option to add one.
Newer engine design. No RMS leak and coolant hoses popping out of the block.
Actually the GTS is a less money even with ceramic brakes added.

jumper5836 Sep 28, 2010 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by NinetyOneC2 (Post 7929854)
I'm leaning towards a GTS and I like the idea of centrelocks from the "oh, that's cool" perspective.

They are a pain in the butt, I change my wheels at home from winter, summer and track regularly.
I use a tire shop (cheaper for me) to mount tires that does regular cars and doesn't have the equipment for the cl.

GT3 Sep 28, 2010 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by jumper5836 (Post 7930993)
They are a pain in the butt, I change my wheels at home from winter, summer and track regularly.
I use a tire shop (cheaper for me) to mount tires that does regular cars and doesn't have the equipment for the cl.

Right.

There is real no mechanical issues. Its just inconvenient for some of us right now, if you are the type of person that likes things done ASAP :banghead::D

Carrera GT Sep 28, 2010 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by jumper5836 (Post 7930962)
Option for PDK.
Keep the clean look with no rear wing, option to add one.
Newer engine design. No RMS leak and coolant hoses popping out of the block.
Actually the GTS is a less money even with ceramic brakes added.

I assume the GTS doesn't have GT3 brakes even as an option -- the ceramics will be the Carrera parts -- and the same in terms of PASM programming and presumably chassis components, suspension geometry and durability on the track.

Regardless of leaks, it doesn't have the 8600 red-line.

Another "plus" for the GTS is the wide body appearance and presumably it has the "4" chassis stiffness.

LastMezger Sep 28, 2010 03:09 PM

Thanks guys.


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