Bill_C4S

FWIW : Last Friday, there were two GT3's on the lot at Momentum in Houston...one Guards the other Black...only took a gander at the Guard, with 1700 miles and low options (guessing sticker at $110k) they were asking ~$125k

nedgu

I have been shopping for the last few months in the san francisco bay area and the local dealerships are asking about $10-$20k over msrp for both used and new gt3s. I was looking at a new one that sold yesterday for $10k over msrp.

Still, dealers asking for and getting over msrp on used ones too...

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ag=1&cardist=8

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ag=1&cardist=8

nedgu

...also, the dealers (at least in CA) are asking around $20k over msrp for the 08s. There will only be around 100 of them.

richk

I sold mt GT3 many months ago...the car had a 122k sticker(white car with PCCB plus a few other options). The car was just traded into an LA dealer with 1100 miles...they give him $110k for the car.

The car has already been sold again so you do need to be moving fast to get a great deal.

eclou

I sold my white one for just about sticker. I think if anything the market is realizing that supply is tighter than ever

PogueMoHone

This was the car that nobody wanted, because of the sunroof!

Well, if you can't get a GT3 at a reasonable price, check out the new MB Black Series, it does many things as well and some better than a GT3 (some worse too), like being a "hassle" free daily driver. Now if you don't need a daily driver, my comments don't apply!

It might be an alternative for some (like me). I refuse to pay premiums to greedy Dealers.

Paul523

ClK Black Series is pretty cool.. heavy but still mucho capable.

Seems this way to me too. The reduction in US allocation moving from MY07 to MY08 for 3s + RSs is becoming apparent.

Fwiw as a rough barometer-- the search
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...el%3D997&meta=
the # listed has dwindled from 45 to 23 cars in just the last month (granted- this excludes used low mileage units & not all dealers are posting GT3/RS on their site's available inventory). Imo prices will hold at 90% of current for a while until rumors of dfi/pdk materialize into production-ready hardware for the next 3/RS.

creator8

A friend of mine just picked up a GT3 new at sticker in LA.

flash1034

Most of the at or just above sticker ones seem to be low/no option cars too. High content cars will continue to draw a premium.

Flash

340Elise

What? You mean the other way around right? I belive in the theory that the low optioned cars will be easier to sell, and could command a premium.

I ordered mine with $1,400 worth of options for a reason (I almost did $0). It keeps the price down for me, and should make it easier to sell. With destination, mine comes in at $109,995.00 on the nose. Then I pay my 3% in taxes, plus about $80 in registratraion, plus a minor doc fee from the dealer. If I don't like the car for some reason (I find this hard to believe), then I would consider selling it for $113K to get my price paid and taxes back. Normally I would never expect to get my taxes back, but in this case I justify it because I would sell the car quickly and it would only have a couple hundred miles on it.

Also, it is not my fault that I cannot find a GT3 to test drive; it is Porsche's fault. So if there is still a lot of demand in Dec/Jan, then I see no reason why I can't get $113K for my very lightly optioned GT3.

I think you also need to keep in mind that all of the 911 allocations are being cut, and supposedly the GT3 and RS will not be built anymore after December. I think the GT3 demand will continue throughout '08 just because of the low allocations for all Porsches for North America. You will find regular Carrera S buyers and Turbo buyers looking towards GT3's just because they want a 997. My delear's allocation for '08 is a joke. They have all of their '08 997 models sold, and even have a small waiting list for the regular 997's. Currently they have one cab and a couple of Caymans and Boxster that are new ('07's). The other 6 cars are used, one of which is an '03 turbo tip. As for the Cayenne? I don't follow those, they are not real Porsches anyway.

I think it is going to get ugly in '08, and those of us who have the most desierable 997's, and get to order them at MSRP, are very lucky! I put my name and deposit down on an S just in case. I don't have my GT3 yet, and in the back of my mind I don't fully trust that I will get it; even though I have an order with my name on it and a build date.

'08 should be very interesting; I expect all 997's to be at, or very close to MSRP because of limited supply. And the very special ones: GT2, low mile used GT3's, and even new turbos to go over MSRP depending on the dealer.

nedgu

I've also heard from 2 separate dealerships that 08 allocations for all porsches are going to be really low- even boxsters and regular 911s. Maybe the 09's will be launched early.

As for the possibility of a 09 GT3, I agree the odds are very low. The regular 09 911s are getting DFI and more hp so if they were to offer a GT3, it seems that they would have to offer the same improvements.

Can they even get more hp out of the current 3.6 GT3 engine. I would imagine that it's probably pretty maxed out and a 3.8 version for the next generation would be a better use of time and resources.

cas951

I was at the dealership yesterday in San Jose. Steven Creek Porsche had a white GT3 RS listed for $132k and the markup was $90k. I couldn't believe it. Is the markup this high acroos the US? I can imagine what the markup will be for the GT2.

340Elise

I don't know if they can go too high on the GT2; I believe it is already around $180K, isn't it? How high can you go on a 911? I doubt they can go much over the used (very low mileage) Ferrari 430 prices. I am a Porsche guy and always will be, but it seems that the GT2 needs to stay under $200K.

I'm just happy that I am getting a brand spankin' new '08 GT3 for under 110K, even if it is only $5.00 under!

YA911Fan

Don't count your GT3s before they're delivered!

Alan Smithee

I don't think there is any question that the facelifted 2009 997 line will be available by spring (non-GT cars).