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Old 06-05-2007, 11:38 AM
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http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/st...age-265767.php
Old 06-05-2007, 12:13 PM
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Pretty stupid on TechArt's part. If the stolen engines were totally disassembled at TechArt's facility then there's no excuse. P will squash them now.
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This is pretty hot news. Surprised it's not getting more comments.
Old 06-05-2007, 12:42 PM
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i just want to know more on the ''engine of the future'' part.
Old 06-05-2007, 02:18 PM
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I doubt a company as well-known as Techart would be stupid enough to knowingly purchase stolen prototype engines. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
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I give all involved the benefit of the doubt...except for those that actually stole the engines...
Old 06-06-2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MJSpeed
I give all involved the benefit of the doubt...except for those that actually stole the engines...
PAG won't follow your example.
Old 06-06-2007, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrera2kid
PAG won't follow your example.
That is for sure. I found out today that this WILL get messy. And Techart won't get off that easy.

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That's crazy. Let's hope Alois doesn't start pawning PDK transmissions.
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Techart's done, put a fork in 'em.
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This sort of thing has happened before, and it will happen again. German business is full of bureaucracy, when it fouls up, this happens. Plus, the punative tax system encourages back door deals. Major German businesses are frequently corrupt and the German people expect their poiticians and business managers to be corrupt.

However, you have to be more efficient than the Germans are to manage this complicated scenario. The corporative nature of the German people prevents the excesses from being worse.

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Originally Posted by Nordschleife
This sort of thing has happened before, and it will happen again. German business is full of bureaucracy, when it fouls up, this happens. Plus, the punative tax system encourages back door deals. Major German businesses are frequently corrupt and the German people expect their poiticians and business managers to be corrupt.
However, you have to be more efficient than the Germans are to manage this complicated scenario. The corporative nature of the German people prevents the excesses from being worse.
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robin,
these comments beg the question, why do you like working in germany?
where does pag rank on the corruption scale?
what country manages their corruption efficiently?
Old 06-07-2007, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by icon
robin,

what country manages their corruption efficiently?
Answer:JAPAN
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Originally Posted by icon
robin,
these comments beg the question, why do you like working in germany?
where does pag rank on the corruption scale?
what country manages their corruption efficiently?
Any country that you can lose your limb, at least...up to your life for theft?

Those countries aren't very industrially prudent though, so :P.
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Originally Posted by icon
robin,
these comments beg the question, why do you like working in germany?
where does pag rank on the corruption scale?
what country manages their corruption efficiently?
Jeff

Several things to like about Germany from the work point of view

- the engineers take endless pains
- they make the rest of look smart (seriously in the areas I work in, they are dummies)
- they don't understand the consequences of their actions (where have I heard that before)
- they invest for the longterm
- every deal has a back hander
- they expect to over invest and to pay for advice
- when you say jump, they ask how high
- they respect people who know what they are talking about
- they respect people in authority

You have to look out for a preference for the appearance of order over order itself.

PAG and corruption is an interesting question. I don't know that the SEC would tolerate a company making a fake share offer to comply with the regulations, as PAG recently did for VAG. The chairman of the VAG supervisory board is one of the inner circle that controls strategy at PAG, he is one of Ferdinand Porsche's grandsons. There is no doubt that he was perfectly aware of what was going on at VAG in terms of ........, indeed his tendency to bully people who work for him encouraged a lot of what went on. One could argue that putting a Porsche badge on the Cayenne id fraudulent. I do not believe that all the management decisions taken at VAG in the future will be in the best interests of all the shareholders, for instance use of smart production lines for PAG cars rather than VAG cars. On balance PAG is pretty average.

Countries which have the best reputation for a lack of corruption include the Scandinavian countries and New Zealand. Small where everybody knows everybody else. Which isn't what you meant. Switzerland manages corruption better than everybody else.

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