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Old 11-26-2006, 12:31 PM
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anytime soon? Should be interesting. I know 997TT people are.
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Yes, I'm doing my RS, and a couple friends are doing their GT3s. Premier Sports Car Service already has it ready to go...they're going to be doing my car up.
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:43 PM
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What HP/Torque increase are they quoting for the 997 GT3 and have you seen any dyno results? Personally I wouldn't flash the ECU without first seeing dyno curves. A modest power increase isn't worth blowing the warranty.
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you know a lot of very talented engineers have worked out the optimum mapping for the car and implemented it in the car as delivered.
On a standard car with a normally aspirated engine, what benefits are you going to get? Just how many horsepower do you thing the engineers at Weissach left on the workshop floor? What sort of knowledge do you imagine the 'chip engineer' has that the engineers who developed the car at Porsche don't have?
Be very aware that it is possible to record 'better' dyno figures by means other than increasing horsepower.
If somebody does a proper re-engineering job and actually changes such items as cam shaft timing, or the air box for example, then the reprogramming of the ecu will allow the maximum benefit from the modifications to be realised. Without physical changes to the engine's set up, the benefits of reprogramming may be purely illusory.

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Originally Posted by Nordschleife
Without physical changes to the engine's set up, the benefits of reprogramming may be purely illusory.

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Or actually, detrimental to power....
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Originally Posted by Nordschleife
you know a lot of very talented engineers have worked out the optimum mapping for the car and implemented it in the car as delivered.
On a standard car with a normally aspirated engine, what benefits are you going to get? Just how many horsepower do you thing the engineers at Weissach left on the workshop floor? What sort of knowledge do you imagine the 'chip engineer' has that the engineers who developed the car at Porsche don't have?
Be very aware that it is possible to record 'better' dyno figures by means other than increasing horsepower.
If somebody does a proper re-engineering job and actually changes such items as cam shaft timing, or the air box for example, then the reprogramming of the ecu will allow the maximum benefit from the modifications to be realised. Without physical changes to the engine's set up, the benefits of reprogramming may be purely illusory.

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This gets my vote as one of the best posts ever.
Old 11-28-2006, 11:26 AM
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I'm with R+C. "Chipping" an FI car is a whole different ballgame than a n/a car, much less one making astonishing hp/L numbers.

Aftermarket turners will certainly advertise incredible gains and take your money, but there just won't be much left on the table with these motors. The new 3.6L is a balanced, blueprinted and lightened version of the old motor already. . . what else do you want?
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aaawe, now I'm getting the warm fuzzies........

(thinks must be MORE controvertial)

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Originally Posted by Nordschleife
you know a lot of very talented engineers have worked out the optimum mapping for the car and implemented it in the car as delivered.
On a standard car with a normally aspirated engine, what benefits are you going to get? Just how many horsepower do you thing the engineers at Weissach left on the workshop floor? What sort of knowledge do you imagine the 'chip engineer' has that the engineers who developed the car at Porsche don't have?
Be very aware that it is possible to record 'better' dyno figures by means other than increasing horsepower.
If somebody does a proper re-engineering job and actually changes such items as cam shaft timing, or the air box for example, then the reprogramming of the ecu will allow the maximum benefit from the modifications to be realised. Without physical changes to the engine's set up, the benefits of reprogramming may be purely illusory.

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Very well said. I have a Ruf modified 996TT which is a very different animal. i have no plans to modify my 997 GT3. A normally aspirated motor like the GT3 motor should be left alone for the reasons stated above plus a bunch more. You can very easily do allot more harm than good, not to mention the warranty issue. If I did consider modding it, I would only use the handful of people qualified.
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that is one of the few mods that my dealer said will kill the warrenty.



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