US GT3 RS Allocations
11-10-2006, 11:42 PM
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PAG and PCNA's numbers are... very flexible. Don't get suckered in thinking "hmmm 1 of 200" and think its going to appreciate. Next year, the GT3RS may be the standard GT3. They screwed us with 1 of 110 X51 cars in 2003. IN 2004, they sold over 2000 of them between options and the anniversay edition. So much for limited production.
11-11-2006, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JFT
I believe the US will get around 300 cars in total. Logic being that the 996 GT3 RS was made in 684 examples. Porsche has announced it's going to make around 1,000 997 GT3 RS. The increased amount is apparently due to the fact that the 997 will be sold in the US whereas the 996 wasn't.
How else would you explain the fact that almost brand new CGT's are trading at a lot less than MSRP, yet the 430 and Enzp are all going way over MSRP?
11-11-2006, 06:40 AM
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Who cares how many RS cars they will build and bring to the US! I wouldn't be buying the car based on its appreciation or limited production status. I want to own one and DRIVE it.
Porsche will sell whatever they can make the most money with - and that could be the RS. I have heard somewhere that they have a production capacity problem for TT and GT3 engines, so that could limit the annual production run.
Porsche will sell whatever they can make the most money with - and that could be the RS. I have heard somewhere that they have a production capacity problem for TT and GT3 engines, so that could limit the annual production run.
11-13-2006, 04:05 PM
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I got in a long discussion about this with my girlfriends father. He is number one on his list with a March build date as stated, not ordered, but planned. Every dealer that is getting RS's already know's the allocation but not pricing. His dealer is only getting one, and he is on the list for the first round.
What we were talking about though is what the RS is. The specs on the RS for the United States are the same 415hp engine, same PCCB brakes, but a wider body. No seats, cage, or anything else "RS". On top of that, it weighs 50lbs more than the standard GT3 without the options of the cage and seats. He has already started working out an order for the cage and seats, and I can almost guarantee the car will be for sale in April after he comes to the realization that the GT3 is less money, as much fun, more practical. Everything I have read and seen on the RS doesn't appear to be any more than an exclusive wide body GT3 with a $180k price tag.
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What we were talking about though is what the RS is. The specs on the RS for the United States are the same 415hp engine, same PCCB brakes, but a wider body. No seats, cage, or anything else "RS". On top of that, it weighs 50lbs more than the standard GT3 without the options of the cage and seats. He has already started working out an order for the cage and seats, and I can almost guarantee the car will be for sale in April after he comes to the realization that the GT3 is less money, as much fun, more practical. Everything I have read and seen on the RS doesn't appear to be any more than an exclusive wide body GT3 with a $180k price tag.
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11-13-2006, 04:36 PM
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Folks-
Having just returned from P-land in Baden-Württemberg, and being a supplier to their factory for another European company, I think that this is all speculation at this point. I believe that they will produce more and send them to the states if the demand is high. This seems to be their marketing strategy at this point in time.
-Gerry
Having just returned from P-land in Baden-Württemberg, and being a supplier to their factory for another European company, I think that this is all speculation at this point. I believe that they will produce more and send them to the states if the demand is high. This seems to be their marketing strategy at this point in time.
-Gerry
11-13-2006, 05:55 PM
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$180k based on the fact that a decently option GT3 is $135k. Porsche often sticks about a $50k premium on the exclusive cars. And I am installing the Automated Parallel Parking system on all of my rides! 
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11-13-2006, 11:14 PM
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My guess is that my RS will be about $127k plus tax including some options - worth it - Yes!
11-13-2006, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmos
The only dealers that do NOT know how many GT3 RS cars they are getting are the ones that are NOT getting any...for MY 2007 or thru June of 2007 anyway.
The only thing that is certain is that the RS is based upon GT3's the dealer recieved.....now the interesting part is that dealers are recieving more 997 GT3's then 996 GT3's so far based on the inital run of 996 GT3 cars.
Basiclly dealers are recieving 997 GT3 cars and more of them sooner in the prodcution run then they recieved 996 GT3's in the same time of that cars prodcution run.
So either PAG will build more 997 GT3's or they are building more in a shorter time and the total run will be shorter.
Only time will tell.
The only thing that is certain is that the RS is based upon GT3's the dealer recieved.....now the interesting part is that dealers are recieving more 997 GT3's then 996 GT3's so far based on the inital run of 996 GT3 cars.
Basiclly dealers are recieving 997 GT3 cars and more of them sooner in the prodcution run then they recieved 996 GT3's in the same time of that cars prodcution run.
So either PAG will build more 997 GT3's or they are building more in a shorter time and the total run will be shorter.
Only time will tell.
11-13-2006, 11:53 PM
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I know for fact where one is going. Its confirmed with an estimated March build. Most likely will be orange with blue accents.
I am not mentioning any names, but a certain dealer has told me personally that the RS will be in line pricing with an F430 and the GT2. That was where I got the $180k from. It was totally a ball park figure, just what I took from that little bit of information. My question this still isn't answered - If the standard GT3 gets the GT3RS uprights, adjustable suspension, same engine, same brakes, same interior, same performance (maybe more based on the weight), what makes the RS worth the premium? I am not saying that its going to be a bad car...I love the way it looks, but it just bums me that PCNA is getting an 'RS-less' RS. If it was a full tilt RS such as the MKII GT3RS with magnesium wheels, upgrade parts throughout, cage, special seats, lighter panels and parts, and distinguisably different body work, then I would see the value. I hope that makes sense. I guess what I am looking at is whether this will be a car that would be worth buying as an ivestment, or will it be a play toy for those who want more than a standard GT3? Knowing my luck, there is something drastically I am missing from the US spec RS, but to me it doesn't look all that impressive.
Wes
I am not mentioning any names, but a certain dealer has told me personally that the RS will be in line pricing with an F430 and the GT2. That was where I got the $180k from. It was totally a ball park figure, just what I took from that little bit of information. My question this still isn't answered - If the standard GT3 gets the GT3RS uprights, adjustable suspension, same engine, same brakes, same interior, same performance (maybe more based on the weight), what makes the RS worth the premium? I am not saying that its going to be a bad car...I love the way it looks, but it just bums me that PCNA is getting an 'RS-less' RS. If it was a full tilt RS such as the MKII GT3RS with magnesium wheels, upgrade parts throughout, cage, special seats, lighter panels and parts, and distinguisably different body work, then I would see the value. I hope that makes sense. I guess what I am looking at is whether this will be a car that would be worth buying as an ivestment, or will it be a play toy for those who want more than a standard GT3? Knowing my luck, there is something drastically I am missing from the US spec RS, but to me it doesn't look all that impressive.
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11-14-2006, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by whakiewes
I guess what I am looking at is whether this will be a car that would be worth buying as an ivestment, or will it be a play toy for those who want more than a standard GT3? K
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11-14-2006, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RSA333
I believe that they will produce more and send them to the states if the demand is high.
11-14-2006, 11:49 AM
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I don't nessacarily agree. There is a market in investment vehicles. I could buy a McLaren F1LM today, legalized in the states, and pull $100000 out of it by not driving it for a year and selling it. I know of many cars, ones that I have driven that in three years of ownership haven't recieved more than 100 miles. Its all in how you view it. A Cayman will never appreciate over retail because its not an exclusive vehicle. In 5 years anyone with a good credit score and a decent job will be able to reasonably afford one. On the other hand, a car such as the Ferrari Enzo that may only get 100 miles a year will appreciate every year until it gets driven to the point where it depreciates. I can't even get started on older cars.
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I don't nessacarily agree. There is a market in investment vehicles. I could buy a McLaren F1LM today, legalized in the states, and pull $100000 out of it by not driving it for a year and selling it. I know of many cars, ones that I have driven that in three years of ownership haven't recieved more than 100 miles. Its all in how you view it. A Cayman will never appreciate over retail because its not an exclusive vehicle. In 5 years anyone with a good credit score and a decent job will be able to reasonably afford one. On the other hand, a car such as the Ferrari Enzo that may only get 100 miles a year will appreciate every year until it gets driven to the point where it depreciates. I can't even get started on older cars.
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11-18-2006, 02:47 PM
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Someome tell me if this sounds right. I put a deposit on a GT3 RS in May and the dealer is now telling me that I'm 5th on their list. Does not sound right to me. Were taliking Greensboro NC. I am suprissed to see that other people are on smaller lists when I put my money down so long ago. Is their any way to make a dealer prove to me where I am on their list? I think the dealer may be holding back allocations for better customers. What do I do?!