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madmurdock 12-07-2018 09:59 AM

997.2 RS Collector Car?
 
I'm the process of importing my 2011 997.2 RS to New Zealand and in order to get compliance I need to prove the RS is a collector car. One of the requirements is less than 20k production volume which I've obviously met. The car needs to have historic value and a mention in a top publication stating it is a collector car is needed.

What does everyone here think? Is the 997.2 RS a collector already or a future collector car? I would be grateful for anyone that can provide any suggestions or links stating the RS is a collector. The NZ transportation authority is being a little picky with my compliance ...

greymanR 12-07-2018 10:47 AM

See if you can get a sothebys catalog, mentions already as a collectable

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/l...che-911-gt3-rs

madmurdock 12-07-2018 10:51 AM

Thank you for this!! I didn't even think of that .Will try this route. They're pretty convinced the car is not a collector but I'm going to fight this until I get approved. I worked way too hard for this car and I'm not letting it go!!

greymanR 12-07-2018 10:57 AM

They are wrong! You win..👍

Ginnmillracing 12-07-2018 11:21 AM

These may help as well...

https://www.total911.com/the-ten-rar...s-of-all-time/

https://backoffice.rmsothebys.com/en...3-rs-38/693120

madmurdock 12-07-2018 01:47 PM

Thank you, Ginnmillracing!

I had found and presented the total911.com article you posted above, but I guess that was not convincing enough. Oddly enough only 8 997.2 RS models were sent to NZ out the 1500-1600 built worldwide. I'm going to send a boat load of articles to the transportation and compliance people in NZ. Thanks for your help everyone!

The more sources the better :).

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Rick-A-Shay 12-07-2018 02:02 PM

If it is not a "collector car" then why low production and high resale value.......... You should win this on all counts! Good Luck!

GM.RS 12-07-2018 04:25 PM

I wonder how many 997.2 RS's were imported to NZ. What a car to drive on those roads, too.

How much grief is it importing a car with the steering wheel on the wrong side?

pissedpuppy 12-07-2018 04:36 PM

when I moved to Australia, I was told it's very difficult to bring a car with me (was advised to "not even try")

not sure how much it differs in NZ but good luck, I hope you get it down there

madmurdock 12-07-2018 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by GM.RS (Post 15482019)
I wonder how many 997.2 RS's were imported to NZ. What a car to drive on those roads, too.

How much grief is it importing a car with the steering wheel on the wrong side?

Only 8 997.2 RS were sold in NZ.
4 grey/red
1 white/red
1 white/black
1 aqua blue/red
1 uni black w gold (PTS)

Steven_H 12-07-2018 04:59 PM

You might also note that Hagerty insures the car as a collectible, classic car.

madmurdock 12-07-2018 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by pissedpuppy (Post 15482046)
when I moved to Australia, I was told it's very difficult to bring a car with me (was advised to "not even try")

not sure how much it differs in NZ but good luck, I hope you get it down there

We are actually living in AUS now, but we have a business based abroad and it does not really make sense to live in AUS and pay a ****e load of taxes, stamp duty etc. Love Melbourne as it's a great city with good food and very efficient. However, I like to rally and ride my side by sides which I cannot do very easily in NSW or VIC. I have no desire to move to Queensland so we have decided to jump ship and settle in NZ.

I tried to see if it was possible to bring a LHD into AUS and it is impossible. The current regs simply do not allow it. AUS is fairly tight with many things as I've learned.

As for NZ, they actually have a special permit for collector cars in LHD or RHD if you tick all the boxes listed below. Took this straight from NZTA's website. https://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/im...rest-vehicles/

What requirements have to be met?

Requirements that the vehicle must meet

To have a vehicle identified as a special interest vehicle, the NZ Transport Agency must deem it to have historic value or it must meet three of the following four requirements:
  • The vehicle (or its make, model and submodel) is identified as being a collector's item in one of the following magazines or their respective websites – Australian classic car, Car and driver (US), Automobile (US), Motor (Australia), Motor trend (US), New Zealand autocar, New Zealand classic car, Road and track (US), Top gear (UK), Top gear NZ,Unique cars (Australia) or Wheels (Australia).
  • The vehicle's make and model has been (or was) manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less.
  • The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a two-door coupe or a convertible.
  • The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a high-performance vehicle.

madmurdock 12-07-2018 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Steven_H (Post 15482087)
You might also note that Hagerty insures the car as a collectible, classic car.

Ahhhh good one as well. I will try to see if I can get documentation showing this.

Ginnmillracing 12-07-2018 05:35 PM

Recent Road & Track...doesn't outwardly claim the .2 RS is collectable, but certainly implied....

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...he-911-gt3-rs/

Ginnmillracing 12-07-2018 05:43 PM

Actually, reading it again, it's pretty obvious....

"The market has acknowledged this car is a classic, and it's not just all hype. It's an icon, and a high watermark for Porsche Motorsport."


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