michicago

After a couple years of planning and saving for a car, and going back and forth on what model I want, I've settled on a 2010 GT3 RS. I wasn't sure until I drove it today, and I still can't wipe the perma-grin off my face... I've never 'connected' to a car like that. The only reason I didn't take it home today was because it has some upgrades (or changes?) that I'm unfamiliar with and wanted some time to look into them. Specifically, should these changes increase the value of the car, decrease it, or be relatively neutral? I couldn't think of a better place to ask than here!

Rather than putting the same generic list of questions after each mod the previous owner made, for each of these would you consider them an upgrade to OEM? Should I consider it a plus or minus to the value of the car versus original equipment?

Stoptech Trophy brakes
GMG WC Exhaust - headers and center bypass
JRZ Adjustable dampers - I don't have a model on this yet, trying to get the info Monday
GMG WC Anti-Roll bars, dog bone, and arm bushings
GMG roll cage

Lastly, while I've been following these cars for a while, I don't know anybody with one so I can only use list prices as a guide. Do Porsches generally sell close to list or do you expect to come down 5% 10%, etc. from list?

Sorry for the newb/generic questions. You can only learn so much about these cars and the aftermarket parts from a distance... really looking forward to picking this car up (or another RS) and experiencing my favorite tracks (VIR and Road Atlanta) on 4 wheels!

Thank you for any help - as you can imagine, emotions are all crazy high after test driving today. I really want the car, but could really use some help understanding some of these unknowns so I can feel more comfortable going for it Monday.

Cheers!

Rick-A-Shay

If you are going to seriously track the car, these are expensive upgrades that are already installed and will be a benefit. RS is sought after by many as it is one of those "last of its series" and limited production. Prices have held steady so be prepared to pay. Knowing the previous owner/history of the car helps to understand how the car was maintained. Pre-purschase inspection by a shop is a must.

michicago

Thank you, this helps quite a bit! I definitely want to get it out on the track, no question there. Where my comfort level drops off is perceived value in the future. I've been around motorcycles at the track for a lot of years... I know if I put Ohlins and Brembo on my bike, it will sell for more later than it would without it. Nobody is going to offer me less because I moved away from OEM Honda parts. With Porsche, I'm not sure...

I just don't know the market as a seller. I feel like selling an RS is already a niche crowd so I'm just trying to avoid paying "full RS value" for something I'd only be able to get "modified and worth less now" down the road, you know? For example, reading today I realized the aftermarket stuff would eliminate PASM (of course, should have realized that). But is that a big selling point?

I'm still trying to find out exactly what suspension is on the car. The dealership seems to know little to nothing about it, which is making this a challenge. Hoping Monday they can provide some paperwork/history on it.

Great point! Getting that set-up for Monday, too. I only wish I could be there to go over the car with the tech, but it's 2.5 hours away so that's unlikely.

997rs4.0

nwGTS

michicago

Thank you, a perfectly straight answer and this pretty much confirms where my head was at for this car. It's priced lower than its unmodified twin that is also for sale, but only by about $7k. Unfortunately this car doesn't come with any stock parts.. and I'd be the 7th owner (several previous owners were only dealerships, but thousands of miles were accrued). As much as this car would be perfect for my use, I'm beginning to think it's priced at a premium I'd be hard pressed to recover when I sell it

I think buying factory brakes, suspension, and exhaust would be pretty expensive... but I like the idea of reverting back to stock when I sell it. I will have to look into this more.
Do people sell their OEM parts on here often? I could amass them over time as they crop up.

One way or another, in the next 2-3 weeks I'll have a .2 GT3 RS in my garage! I drove a turbo S cabriolet when I was at the dealership too, thinking it'd be a compromise the wife would enjoy riding in more. I haven't given that car a 2nd thought since I stepped out of it... and have not stopped daydreaming about the RS since surgically extracting myself from the bucket seat. Just raw driving and I loved every second of it.

That helps a lot, thank you! Hearing what mods are meaningful to someone else is extremely helpful... that's the piece I'm missing more than anything. Funny you mention the front-end lift, too, since the gauge cluster was showing "lift failure" on my test drive. I guess that's not such an uncommon sighting!

Maintenance and records is right, too. That's another piece I'm missing in this deal (so far, at least). The dealer selling the car hasn't shared any of that so Monday I'd like to see what they have available so I can start understanding this car more. Buy the owner... spot on, I like that Maybe the number of previous owners and my inability to talk to them should sway me in another direction.

Speedster911

.2RS owners are a fairly close group. If you post the Vin and photos, someone on this forum should know the car and perhaps connect you with previous owner/ owners.

Take your time and find the right car for you. Good luck in your search.

michicago

Wow, I don't even know what to say - that's incredibly helpful, thanks!

Here's some info I have for it:
VIN: WP0AC2A9XAS783693

And a couple photos:

smulyanto

Found it- it's been listed here on rennlist before:

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...he-gt3-rs.html

michicago

That was fast! And gave me more history than I received at the dealer. I guess I can add engine swap to the list of mods now!

Is it just me or does an engine swap with no supporting paperwork seem... off? Concerning it never sold here, too. Beautiful car with great mods but the more I learn about it, the harder I think it will be to sell without losing my shirt.
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misterwaterfall

Not very confidence inspiring reading through that thread.

thxbuff2001

If you are looking for a track car, it depends on how much they are selling it. I am sure it wont be cheap. But if you are going to resell, it would be difficult, atleast private selling.

But there are enough cars out there for you not to explain the story on the car.

michicago

My thoughts exactly. I mean, I loved the car and would buy it tomorrow if I felt it was priced for what it is... A wholly unoriginal, but phenomenal track car. But with an ask of 170k, it feels like the disconnect is quite large.

Out of curiosity, given the checkered past what would be a reasonable price for that as a private sale? $140k? Even lower?

thxbuff2001

michicago

I understand that, but everything has a known fair market value too. Having no personal experience on this model with a history that would require so much explaining, I was looking for a little guidance is all.

Thank you! My hunt for the right car continues.