MichaelC4

Lifted the car to change the oil and.....yikes :

SoCal C2S

Toe and or camber is either off or set to be very aggressive.

I assume the other tire is the same? If not then a curb strike could have whacked the alignment (does the car pull?), or inner/outer tie rods are worn.

If it's the rear (which this looks like since you are changing oil) probably not the curb strike.

Others will add other possibilities......

joe_mtl

Have similar wear on on insides of all 4 tires on my IS350. Lexus dealer says its the camber and is normal on my vehicle.
Did you check all 4?

MichaelC4

Both rears. Yes I checked the fronts and they are not the same. I have new tires delivered from tire rack to be mounted this week. I'll then drive to the shop and have them fix the issue. Thanks for the speedy replies.

MichaelC4

By the by, SoCal C2S you have a beautiful ride.

jchapura

I had your same wear pattern on the rears, and different from the fronts, on new S-04s at about 18k miles. I'm not a terribly aggressive driver - that's why I think they lasted 18k - I was really expecting only 13k when I put them on.

After the rears were replaced, I did have it realigned to go from the more aggressive side of the tolerance for camber and toe to the other side of the tolerance, to perhaps get a slightly better wear pattern balance. One would give up some performance handling with this approach.

Tj40

Toe being off will wear the insides like this very quickly, in my experience its a bigger factor than camber alone.


I.e. you can run aggressive camber with correct toe specs and not get this but normal camber with incorrect toe will kill the tires like this.....

Macster

This is what I understand is the case. Underway the camber "goes away" and the rear tires with their entire tread surface on the road. Makes sense. One doesn't get the grip/handling these cars deliver with the tread face partially in in the air.

(Don't go by what you see from other brands of cars that have goofy wheel/tire combos and the cars showing massive amounts of camber with the tires obviouly riding on just part of the tire tread.)

Furthermore my expeirence is even with the max. allowed amount of camber rear tire wear is still just fine (I get 20K+ miles) as long as the toe is correct.

Whenever I have my cars alignned I ask for an alignment that is condusive to even rear (and front) tire wear and long tire life *without* compromising the car's handling, road feel, stability, etc.

The tech always delivers and even with my 996 Turbo manage 20K+ miles before the wear reaches the wear bars.

There is some rear toe but it ain't much.

SoCal C2S

Thank you.....and yes I have the 911 disease.

ADias

Correct! Toe is the issue. The rear negative toe makes the car 'safer' for hot/inexperienced drivers. Minimal toe requires proper driving but improves dynamics and reduces wear. Negative camber should stay untouched.

BHMav8r

The alignment has tolerances. If you don't need aggressive handling, you can have your (talented) alignment guy set the rear on the less aggressive side of the spec.

Wayne Smith

Good advice from all. I had the same problem and reduced the rear toe. I now get the same inside wear, but that's after 25K plus miles on MPSS tires.

Find a good independent tire shop with a good brake mechanic. Talk about how you drive and discuss your expectations. If the guy is good, he'll make it right.

Jack667

I have a mildly aggressive alignment which produces wear patterns like this, but not as bad. I try and remember to check often enough to catch it and then have my tire shop flip that tires on on the rims. It costs about $25/corner, but worth it IMHO. I just do it once per set, but that I get about double the wear out of a set of tires, given my alignment settings...

MichaelC4

Thanks guys for all the advice / input. I was at my pops house for ribs, that is why I haven't replied to yous. I have a place in Ann Arbor that I take my car. I'll speak to them about what yous have said. Thanks again.
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Hella-Buggin'

Try taking corners faster to even out the wear :-)