997.2 Check Engine Light - Reduced Power
#1
Three Wheelin'
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997.2 Check Engine Light - Reduced Power
Does anyone know what could be wrong? I have a Check Engine light.
Background:
997.2 C2S
37,000 miles
All stock - ~25 track days on the car
Plugs and coils are original.
I was at the track,before the CEL went on, I checked my oil on the grid and no bars in the middle were lit, I figured this was bad but not that bad since The last bar wasn't blinking and the car wasn't telling me to add oil.
Anyways, I ran the session but only got in a couple of laps before the CEL threw, so I pitted after 10min or so.
I added some oil and shut the car down. I actually added a little too much so the oil was right at the overfill mark because it would change to be overfilled or just at the top. Again, I didn't think it was that big of deal.
On my second session, the CEL wasnt lit anymore, so I ran the session. Again after a couple laps the light went on so I pitted.
One of the crews at the track had a PIWIS computer, they read the codes, it said misfires on 1,2,4 (I think that's the left side). They didn't see anything else wrong. They cleared the codes and drained some oil for me.
On the third session, same deal again. I had the car read again and this time it showed some misfires on the other bank of cylinders. (3,5,6).
Anyway, I was able to drive home fine, 2.5 hours at a steady 75mph with no issues, just a CEL light on.
On track, when the CEL is thrown, I seemed to lose power and the car wouldn not goo faster than 105 in straights where I would hit 125+ Probably self protection from the computer.
Thoughts?
Background:
997.2 C2S
37,000 miles
All stock - ~25 track days on the car
Plugs and coils are original.
I was at the track,before the CEL went on, I checked my oil on the grid and no bars in the middle were lit, I figured this was bad but not that bad since The last bar wasn't blinking and the car wasn't telling me to add oil.
Anyways, I ran the session but only got in a couple of laps before the CEL threw, so I pitted after 10min or so.
I added some oil and shut the car down. I actually added a little too much so the oil was right at the overfill mark because it would change to be overfilled or just at the top. Again, I didn't think it was that big of deal.
On my second session, the CEL wasnt lit anymore, so I ran the session. Again after a couple laps the light went on so I pitted.
One of the crews at the track had a PIWIS computer, they read the codes, it said misfires on 1,2,4 (I think that's the left side). They didn't see anything else wrong. They cleared the codes and drained some oil for me.
On the third session, same deal again. I had the car read again and this time it showed some misfires on the other bank of cylinders. (3,5,6).
Anyway, I was able to drive home fine, 2.5 hours at a steady 75mph with no issues, just a CEL light on.
On track, when the CEL is thrown, I seemed to lose power and the car wouldn not goo faster than 105 in straights where I would hit 125+ Probably self protection from the computer.
Thoughts?
#2
Rennlist Member
This is going to be good.
#3
Bank 1 is 1,2,3 driver's side exhausting out the passenger's side due to the exhaust crossover. Bank 2 is 4,5,6 passenger's side exhausting on the driver's side. So the misfire codes are across both banks moving around. The most common cause of misfires is coil packs. But since your misfires are moving it could be something else. Perhaps the crank position sensor going bad?
Too early to say it's oil related. Check sooting on the tailpipes, should be even. Pull the codes again and post the actual code numbers too.
Too early to say it's oil related. Check sooting on the tailpipes, should be even. Pull the codes again and post the actual code numbers too.
#4
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Bank 1 is 1,2,3 driver's side exhausting out the passenger's side due to the exhaust crossover. Bank 2 is 4,5,6 passenger's side exhausting on the driver's side. So the misfire codes are across both banks moving around. The most common cause of misfires is coil packs. But since your misfires are moving it could be something else. Perhaps the crank position sensor going bad?
Too early to say it's oil related. Check sooting on the tailpipes, should be even. Pull the codes again and post the actual code numbers too.
Too early to say it's oil related. Check sooting on the tailpipes, should be even. Pull the codes again and post the actual code numbers too.
Anyway, just seeing what others think. Perhaps AOS, MAF, lifter solenoids coils that are no longer good. I'm starting to think it's not the coils since whole banks were mis-firing.
I just ordered new plugs and coils, they are overdue anyway.
#6
HPFP problems seem to be based pin the 09s. It's a good idea of you have an 09.
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#9
Any part can go ... you're right. To be accurate I should have said that the factory replacement program centered around the 2009 year.
#10
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
I should offer up a prize for the correct Internet Mechanic diagnosis...
So far I have:
1.) HPFP
2.) Coil Packs
As the leading contenders....LOL
My indy is at Sebring this week with his whole crew so I won't be able to have a mechanic look at the car until next week. Hopefully the coils i ordered come in this week and I can replace this weekend.
So far I have:
1.) HPFP
2.) Coil Packs
As the leading contenders....LOL
My indy is at Sebring this week with his whole crew so I won't be able to have a mechanic look at the car until next week. Hopefully the coils i ordered come in this week and I can replace this weekend.
#11
Rennlist Member
I should offer up a prize for the correct Internet Mechanic diagnosis...
So far I have:
1.) HPFP
2.) Coil Packs
As the leading contenders....LOL
My indy is at Sebring this week with his whole crew so I won't be able to have a mechanic look at the car until next week. Hopefully the coils i ordered come in this week and I can replace this weekend.
So far I have:
1.) HPFP
2.) Coil Packs
As the leading contenders....LOL
My indy is at Sebring this week with his whole crew so I won't be able to have a mechanic look at the car until next week. Hopefully the coils i ordered come in this week and I can replace this weekend.
#12
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter