2011-sy-carreras

Added the tune last. On ordering, EVOMSit sends a questionnaire to ask about installed mods and driving habits. Also, if the car is more of a daily driver, and/or tracked occasionally.

They also can address gas pedal sensitivity if you would like to change.

Their tune was worth it in my case. Tighten the mods and feels the engine runs much smoother and seems to rev better from standstill with a small low end torque improvement.

They sent my tune with a higher rev at idle at about 50 to 100 above stock. They say sometimes needed to address rough starts from a standstill with an xpipe, PSE, and PDK. I asked they remove and e-mailed me a new file with stock idle to test and very accommodating.

My set up had no issues at stock idle and stayed with it at stock. I'm not the kind of driver that likes my car at a higher idle at a standstill.

Bottom line, made a difference and would not go without a quality group's engine tune to pull these mods together. Other mods I found easy and made a material improvement was PASM stock swap out with TPC's DSC sport controller

user 72902

Sorry to throw cold water on the ECU tunes but I've done both - sent my ECU out to a reputable vendor and had my car dynoed tuned. On the ECU tune it was not a good experience and one of their "tricks" was to change the throttle response to make the car feel like it had more power. To get an effective tune in my opinion you need an expert running your engine and looking at outputs - especially if you have any mods. A before and after dyno will be your proof.

platinum997

My opinion. Unless your buying a power package with a tune all from the same company your not going to see the results your expecting. Adding an exhaust from manufacturer A, Intake from B, plentium from C and a off the shelf tune from D isn't going to be the same. The parts are not tested together and tuned appropriately.

You might get lucky and have some gain but surely not as much as a planned and tested system.

If your going a la carte, get a custom tune.

2011-sy-carreras

I can safely say there was a difference from my experience, but don't disagree with the idea of tuning for actual mods. Tuner should have created a tune for those specific hardware mods. My hardware mods was a sharkwerks xpipe and followed what they did and partnered with evomsit. They tested and Dyno'd the set up before and after by evomsit/sharkwerks.

I also agree with software tuning a stock car. Not much gained. It's when you add hardware mods and work a tune to take advantage of changes. It did for me and evomsit had previously created a tune for my specific mods

Ron Sturm

cyclrder

Full fabspeed system on turbo.. put the Cobb on and was completely different car, had purchased the Fabspeed tune and then added it... excellent, but I think Cobb was 95% there ... especially for the street.

apperception

Came with the car when I purchased it two years ago, excellent customer support from Fabspeed, great sound, and no problems. Never had the opportunity to drive it stock. I do love the fat midrange torque compared to my previous 964.

Larry in Georgia
06 C2S
03 Audi S8
67 Chevy C 10
09 A4 Avant Wifey

Russ21

Hi, have had similar done, Ipd plenum 82mm throttle body,
200 cell cats k&n intake these IMO would be the biggest easiest/difference, also had Lw flywheel and pulley, headers and Lsd. Haven't had tuning yet, but car is easy to drive with good pull from 20mph in 3rd and from 50-100mph is fab
60-100mph is around 4.5sec.
no flatspots to speak of but not had it tuned yet.
Russ
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dashanin

Hi there! I'm doing preliminary research on IPD plenum and found your post very relevant. I've done the sharkworks x-pipe and now at the decision point of going with EVOMS ECU flash or IPD plenum. Talked to Sharkworks and they advise software tune ahead of plenum swap to get the most value. What are your thoughts on the correct order of these upgrades? Thanks in advance!

Russ21

Hi,
I've since put on muffler bypass so car is very loud and 50lbs lighter, however, to answer your question, I recently had a remap, I think these are just about the same whichever country you are in and whoever does them, for me it's UK, it seems to be more of timing and throttle response, they all seem to quote 15 to 25hp, I think 15 is realistic, when it was remapped I could feel a lot of throttle response which made it feel a little more powerful and there was a slight increase in power, it also made the car louder and mine is already incredibly loud, too loud to use in town. It just felt a bit harsh even for me, I felt the throttle response would make some overtaking a little tricky, it's a bit like all or nothing, it a felt like I was asking too much from the car, so I had the original map put back on. I'd go for ipd plenum,
It just looks like a piece of art and will work with the increase flow from your exhaust the ecu will adjust fueling accordingly, put lsd on when you get a chance.

John@Fabspeed

Phil here.
In any NA vehicle I would suggest completing all mechanical parts before tuning.
You can only pull so much hp out of these cars so if you can tune for all parts that you are putting on you can extract the most HP.
If you do it the other way around you won't see the benefits of some of the parts.

Russ21

Hi Phil,
I would agree with you, but in most cases isn't the map just off the shelf, so to speak, for instance the one they put on my car was just a map for 997s regardless of what mods had previously been done.
So the map just adds a little bit more fuel, adjusted timing and throttle response, so unless it's tailored to a specific car+mods it shouldn't make a difference to the order things are added
Obviously if you are having a tailored tune then it has to be done last.
Russ

dashanin

Thanks Phil. Makes sense to get done with hardware upgrades and then utilize software to bring it all together. Do you have experience with EVOMS? If you do, any thoughts you could share?

John@Fabspeed

Hey Russ,
That is true if you are ussine of the shelf map.
I have not had much experience with ots maps on NA engines. I use them a ton on Turbo engines because it is a great stepping stone but would not suggest using them on an NA engine.

John@Fabspeed

What are you looking for from Evoms?