josserman

Yes 100% agreed! Was just commenting on where I've seen them fall short. Generally speaking I find it difficult to have a car that sees partial track duty between proper performance parts and more importantly safety. For street use, id imagine ohlins or almost anything relatively decent would do the trick.

swoardrider

There is a reason why you don't see them. Magnetic shock technology is awesome for the street but as soon as you hit the track, the viscosity all goes to hell when the fluid heats up. It's not consistent control like a needle or spool valve. Hence the reason GM's Camaro Z/28 and Canyon ZR2 truck uses Mutimatic's DSSV Spool Valve shocks and not their own magnetic shock technology.

Our Bilstein damptronics are actually one of the best designed active suspensions in the world. It's technology makes it very consistent. It's problem is that it's valves and computer controller are slow. DSC controller fixes the computer issue. Tractive Suspension's Dampers fix the slow valve issue.

I have Ohlins on my bike and racing Ohlins dampers on my last street/track car. I am definitely an Ohlins fan boy, but unless I was a dedicated racer, (in which I'd be using Ohlin's crazy $$$ TTX stuff), I would never trade an active system like PASM for a manual rebound/comp adjustment damper. The cost over time of pulling my old Ohlins off my car and having to have them rebuilt was a major headache. The road and track series shocks supposedly don't have to be rebuilt as often, but I don't see how beating on a shock at the track even 6 times a year is going to provide consistent performance in the long run, unless you rebuild dampers often. For guys that have PASM already, I would strongly recommend staying with an active suspension, getting the DSC controller, and either the B16 or Tractive Dampers. Porsche has already given us the best damper technology in the world, it just needed to be fine tuned. If F1 allowed active suspensions, you bet your *** it would be back in a heartbeat. In fact they are lobbying this year to try and bring it o the 2018 season. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...return-874491/

stoked_on_spool

Finally got mine installed 3 days ago!

First impressions, I absolutely love them!

I try to do 3-4 HPDE weekends a year, and I daily drive my 2005 997 C2 approx 13k miles/yr. For me, I wanted to find an adjustable coilover system that would:
A) Be as comfortable as stock
B) Allow me to lower the car to get rid of the 4x4 look (my opinion)
C) Be as good or better than stock on the track

I've only been able to confirm A and B to this point, but I have no doubt it will perform better on track too! I started out with the suspension 5 clicks from full stiff just to get the sensation of driving with the firmer setup and although it's too much for me on the street, it felt fantastic and extremely planted driving through some twists local to me. I then dialed them 5 clicks from full soft, and it has COMPLETELY different character. It's smooth on all sorts of roads and very composed. As i stated earlier, this is primarily a daily driver for me and ride quality was the most important thing for me to find, and I think these Ohlins R&T really do a great job (and for a great price too! <$2,400)

I would highly recommend this kit, and will comment back here if anything changes and/or after my first track day with it.

-Bret

nowakm99

Thanks for the feedback. I just pulled the trigger on these yesterday and should have them on the car in 2 weeks. They were actually almost $1,000 less expensive than PSS9s here in Canada, so a no brainer.

cully

Digging up an old thread...I am in the process of installing this kit. What was your final ride height and how much did it settle after you installed it? I have the rears installed as per spec and they are sitting really low, like 118mm...

Presto

second2none

cully

I have only 3 drives on mine, but I have them set at 12 from full stiff. I would say that is is a little softer than I will set them for general driving. This setting would be really nice for a long highway drive. At this setting, with GT3 sway bars, the car is still about 1000% better than stock. Still experimenting...

cully

I had my first track outing with these today. I set them at 7. Could have gone a little stiffer on the smooth track I was on, but 7 was fine, really good actually. I have driven maybe 250 miles since I got them installed and aligned/corner balanced, and have them set at 12. I think that 12 is good for cruising, but it is just a touch "springy". If you're planning on a lot of twisties, I think I would set them at maybe 10. That is my plan anyway, when I go to North Carolina in a month.

shrumdog

josserman

andy2

I had my -09 C2S done at Levin Racing in Sweden; they are set to 8 clicks, works fine for me on Swedish winter damaged roads
My setup is:
LF Toe 0.5 IN
Camber -1
RF Toe 0.5 IN
Camber -1
LR Toe 1.5 IN
Camber -2
RR Toe 1.5 IN
Camber -2

The result is a complete transformation of the car from a gentlemen's transportation vehicle to the Porsche sportscar I was looking for.
Also cabin noise is noticeably quieter and all rattles except for passenger seat belt holder have vanished. Car also looks the part now and that aint bad!

josserman

andy2

No other mods (other than Car Graphics loud muffler
I run Pilot Sports 2 235/305:s at 2.3 and 2.7 bars respectively.

josserman