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Old 02-23-2017, 12:07 PM
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Hi,

Is this product legit? Or is it a scam?

After surfing the net looking for some goodies for my '06 C4 I cam across this:

http://www.eobdtool.com/Wholesale/piwis.html



This company is selling the PIWIS II system, it has offline and online functions

To support ONLINE function, valid certificate must be available for Porsche Piwis Tester II.

Requires ONLINE modules: (F BCM R BCM DME ELV SRS KEY)



here is another link that explains more about one time use online Porsche Dealer Account:

http://www.eobdtool.com/piwis-ii-tes...se-p-2119.html


and here:

http://www.eobdtool.com/porsche-piwi...me-p-2118.html
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It's a grey market PIWIS. It's likely real but not with online capabilities. This means it's a probably a copy hacked to work offline only. Typically a real PIWIS's hard drive is cloned, installed into a similar laptop, and mated with the Bosch OBDII hardware or a Chinese copy of it. To do remote coding or enabling things like sport chrono you will need to log onto Porsche's network with a valid user id/password. You will not have this capability. The modules listed require online access. I've also seen these grey market sellers offer their online logon via remote access for 24 hours for a fee of course ($250?).

A buddy loaned me one to play with when I retrofitted TPMS into the car. There are definitely more features than Durametric Pro, but not a huge number more. I accidentally disabled sport mode with it, and needed to see the dealer to get it reenabled because I did not have the online access, and wasn't about to pay more than a dealer visit for remote access from Asia into my computer. But I did get the TPMS system programmed properly, even enabling summer/winter/special (track) tire settings.

I'd say Durametric Pro covers about 80% of the same things without the online access. There are some small items that PIWIS can do better, and in some case beyond what Durametric Pro can do - mostly on the coding options side. Putting the grey market piece aside for the moment, I concluded Durametric Pro was enough for me since I already owned it. But if I didn't and want to spend double I would consider it. Again, putting the grey market piece of it aside...
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I am currently in contact with the German manufacturer of the PIWIS interface (Samtec HSX VCI) and list price is 2000€ just for the interface. So add in 240€ for the OBD2 connection cable.

Do you really think that this cheapo unit from China will be anything but a knock-off?

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Originally Posted by cool flash
I am currently in contact with the German manufacturer of the PIWIS interface (Samtec HSX VCI) and list price is 2000€ just for the interface. So add in 240€ for the OBD2 connection cable.

Do you really think that this cheapo unit from China will be anything but a knock-off?

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True,

But for the same price as the Durametric Pro, you are also getting a laptop as well with this grey market PIWIS II system...

something to consider, no?
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Originally Posted by semicycler
But I did get the TPMS system programmed properly, even enabling summer/winter/special (track) tire settings.
wait what?!
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Originally Posted by nwGTS
wait what?!
Yup, additional settings enabled for TPMS system with a borrowed gray market PIWIS. My 2006 C2S did not come with the TPM option. The hardest part of the retrofit was manually running wires as the wires were not in the front and rear main harnesses in my car. Then it needed programming with PIWIS to activate.

The biggest difference with the track tire settings is you define the target pressures. The other settings are predefined base on summer vs winter, 18 vs 19, partial vs full load. Not positive but I think the size option was also enabled.

The "Track Tire" is the special setting. There is an option in PIWIS to rename it to whatever you want. My OCD struggled with "Track Tyre" to match the other settings or "Track Tire" as it's properly spelled where I live. I settled on the latter



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This is clone hardware and cracked software. There is no telling what it may do to a control unit. Oftentimes these clone interfaces are missing parts or have used/recycled ICs etc.

Not sure you want to use that kind of equipment on a $100k car.

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Originally Posted by cool flash
This is clone hardware and cracked software. There is no telling what it may do to a control unit. Oftentimes these clone interfaces are missing parts or have used/recycled ICs etc.

Not sure you want to use that kind of equipment on a $100k car.

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CF
I tend to feel the same, however keep in mind Durametric is just that kind of tool.... it is a reverse engineered piece of software designed to be an alternative to the Porsche system. While not Chinese, I believe the hackers are a South African Company HEX. Is South Africa better than China? Be careful about stereotyping and entire countries efforts here.....

Anywho.... I would only hook up a popular product to my car rather than something I know little about.... country of origin is not an issue for me.

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@ Bruce

I didnt mention any country, much less stereotyped anyone. You are the one stereotying China here me thinks. You should re-read my post and yours.

No need to further talk about violations of intellectual property and copyright violations...

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Originally Posted by cool flash
@ Bruce

I didnt mention any country, much less stereotyped anyone. You are the one stereotying China here me thinks. You should re-read my post and yours.

No need to further talk about violations of intellectual property and copyright violations...

CF
Boy, you are right, I could have sworn we were talking about Chinese knockoffs... I went right to the lowest....

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awesome info.

Originally Posted by semicycler
A buddy loaned me one to play with when I retrofitted TPMS into the car. There are definitely more features than Durametric Pro, but not a huge number more.

I'd say Durametric Pro covers about 80% of the same things without the online access. There are some small items that PIWIS can do better, and in some case beyond what Durametric Pro can do - mostly on the coding options side.
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Did anyone ever end up ordering a PIWIS 2 from eobdtool? Any feedback?
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I did yesterday. I have the Durametric Pro. I will compare both but from what I have seen, my Durametric Pro will probably be up for sale. Good price I might add.
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Originally Posted by semicycler
Yup, additional settings enabled for TPMS system with a borrowed gray market PIWIS. My 2006 C2S did not come with the TPM option. The hardest part of the retrofit was manually running wires as the wires were not in the front and rear main harnesses in my car. Then it needed programming with PIWIS to activate.

The biggest difference with the track tire settings is you define the target pressures. The other settings are predefined base on summer vs winter, 18 vs 19, partial vs full load. Not positive but I think the size option was also enabled.

The "Track Tire" is the special setting. There is an option in PIWIS to rename it to whatever you want. My OCD struggled with "Track Tyre" to match the other settings or "Track Tire" as it's properly spelled where I live. I settled on the latter



Amazing - - loads of folks would kill for this. Any details/instructions on how to do this in PIWIS? Can I have my dealer do it? I've had them code things (like Dension) in the past and you have to give them specific instructions. It'd be great to be able to set custom pressures.
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duplicate sorry


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