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Old 09-22-2018, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Swole
Without knowing tires on certain cars for those lap times, it's hard to tell if those more modern cars are truly that much better.
I'd love to see all these models on same tires like Sport Cup 2's. I wonder how close my 997.2TTS could be to the 2014 and the 2017 TTS with same tires.
I competed against all the newer iron in One Lap. We were all running either PS4s or Bridgestones. The 997 can't compete.
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I competed against all the newer iron in One Lap. We were all running either PS4s or Bridgestones. The 997 can't compete.
Which 997?
And no offense but without same drivers or very closely skilled drivers, that's more of an opinion vs. fact.

I expect new cars to be better, even on same rubber, but drivers make huge difference. Not just in skill level but, how far I'm willing to push a car based on my GAFF / income / not wanting to hurt my car or don't care VS. someone that can't afford track insurance and has to worry about everything that happens to their car, means a great deal in lap times too.

Only way to tell would be to have a 997.2 TTS, 991.1TTS, and a 991.2TTS supplied by Porsche to one driver on same track / same day with instructions to "Do what needs to be done to prove which is better".

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Originally Posted by Big Swole
Which 997?
And no offense but without same drivers or very closely skilled drivers, that's more of an opinion vs. fact.

I expect new cars to be better, even on same rubber, but drivers make huge difference. Not just in skill level but, how far I'm willing to push a car based on my GAFF / income / not wanting to hurt my car or don't care VS. someone that can't afford track insurance and has to worry about everything that happens to their car, means a great deal in lap times too.

Only way to tell would be to have a 997.2 TTS, 991.1TTS, and a 991.2TTS supplied by Porsche to one driver on same track / same day with instructions to "Do what needs to be done to prove which is better".

Just my .02
.1 S. I'm a NASA National Champion. I was pushing as hard as everyone else (we all had to make it home 3500 miles). It's a fair comparison. Cars from the last 5-6 years are so much faster.
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Originally Posted by cosm3os
.1 S. I'm a NASA National Champion. I was pushing as hard as everyone else (we all had to make it home 3500 miles). It's a fair comparison. Cars from the last 5-6 years are so much faster.
Okay.. That makes it better.

Still would like to see the TTS's go at it. Little more tech in them over NA models I think (active engine mounts, torque vectoring, etc.).

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Ring times from Auto Motor und Sport (AMuS), with either Horst von Saurma or Christian Gebhardt at the helm. Here are their times for various Porsches over the years (with the 997 models highlighted in grey).

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Motor Trend recently published their 2018 Best Driver's Car: https://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-best-drivers-car/

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997.2 Carrera reviews
  • JayEmm on Cars - 997.2 C2 Coupe (6MT) vs. 996.2 C4S Coupe (6MT) - YouTube
    • Compares the two models from the perspective of a used-car purchase
    • October 2018

997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 reviews
  • Doug DeMuro - Reviews a used GT3 RS 4.0 (6MT) - YouTube
    • Low miles (approximately 7,200), and worth at the time ~$500K...
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Stock 997 Turbo Models

997.1 Turbo reviews
  • Speed TV's Battle of the Supercars - 997.1 Turbo Coupe (Tip) vs. Nissan GT-R (DCT) - YouTube
    • Professional racedrivers Paul Tracy (IndyCar) and Tanner Foust (Rally/Drifting) compete against each other in these cars
    • The 997TT is wearing some form of bodykit, but they quote standard 480 HP levels - so presumably the engine is stock
    • Presenation style is like WWE, so beware...
    • April 2015 (but the original broadcast date is sometime before that)
Modified 997 Turbos

Modified 997.2 Turbos
  • Speed TV's Battle of the Supercars - Evolution Motorsports EVT650 997.2 Turbo Coupe (PDK) vs. Evolution Motorsports twin-turbo Audi R8 V8 Coupe (6-spd auto-clutch) - YouTube
    • Professional racedrivers Paul Tracy (IndyCar) and Tanner Foust (Rally/Drifting) compete against each other in these cars
    • Presenation style is like WWE, so beware...
    • April 2015 (but the original broadcast date is sometime before that)
Modified 997 GT Models

Modified 997.1 GT3 RS reviews
  • Speed TV's Battle of the Supercars - 997.1 3.9L Sharkwerks GT3 RS (6MT) vs. "tuned" Ferrari F430 (6-spd auto-clutch) - YouTube
    • Professional racedrivers Paul Tracy (IndyCar) and Tanner Foust (Rally/Drifting) compete against each other in these cars
    • Presenation style is like WWE, so beware...
    • April 2015 (but the original broadcast date is sometime before that)

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997.1 Carrera reviews
997.1 Carrera 4/4S reviews
997.1 Targa reviews
997.2 Carrera GTS reviews
997.2 Cabriolet reviews
997.2 Other
997.1 Turbo Cabriolet reviews
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997.1 GT3 reviews
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997.2 GT3 RS reviews
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Now it's time to go watch the Patriots vs. the Rams...

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What a remarkable compendium. Good work!
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Modified GT3 reviews
  • Jay Leno's Garage - SharkWerks modified 4.1L 997.2 GT3 RS (6MT) - YouTube
    • Jay Leno interviews Alex Ross (SharkWerks) and drives their modified RS
    • April 2014

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Modified GT3 reviews
  • /DRIVE - Review of SharkWerks modified 3.9L 997.1 GT3 RS and a 4.1L 997.2 GT3 RS (both 6MT) - YouTube
    • There's also a shorter version just focused on comedian Joe Rogan's SharkWerks Porsche 997.1 3.9L GT3 RS - YouTube
    • August 2014

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