mordeeb

Selling?

Bill in Boston

I'm in MA too. Paid $32k for a 2005 C2 w/ 58k miles last May. Love it. Fair warning though - I've put another 10k into it proactively (clutch, IMS upgrade, coil packs, AOS, etc, new wheels and tires, new steering wheel). Good financial decision? Hell no.

Don't expect price of ownership to be limited at price paid.

mordeeb

Yikes, that is rough, where did you do the IMS and how much was it?

Bill in Boston

Bill at Eurotech in Framingham did all the work. The spend is on me as I commissioned a big job. I was charged $875 for the kit (retro). I can't estimate the hours of labor as I also had a clutch and many other things done. I ended up very happy with the finished product and the service.

Derek Zoolander

IMS should only be an extra 0.5-1 hour labor on top of a clutch

Thedips

I did the same as soon as mine arrived water pump aos rms clutch and ims I think my bill was around 6k I wanted 05 in particular so I could upgrade ims vs 06

5CHN3LL

Damn, I love it when people aren't content with 5-year-old stale statistics and just start making up brand new ones to suit their fancy.

Why not go with 98%? At the point you're convincing yourself that your THIRD M96-POWERED CAR in three years doesn't warrant IMSB retrofit - and you're making up the numbers anyway - why only 95%? Why not 99.6% - at least that would be easy to remember.

Cheesus.

Ward1

I don't know if this helps with your research or not but last month I paid $36k for an 05 C2 base with 27k miles on it in Ohio. It has a couple of options nothing major, the sport chrono, bi neon lights, bose, and power heated seats.

ancientanskrit

I'll add to this as I just acquired a 997 of the '05 base variety . It has 74k miles with no records. I guess I got lucky as I did extra due-diligence that the previous owner did not know, and ends up the vehicle was heavily serviced at Porsche of San Diego and Niello in Sacramento for most of its life. Anywho, I got it for $26.5k

johnireland

Didn't state it as a statistical fact, just giving my impression based on reading all the posts here about people changing their bearings. But now we are starting to see posts from people who have had their retrofits fail.

For me, changing the bearing is as much about who does it as doing it. In a recent Jake Raby post I believe he mentioned seeing only two of the non replaceable bearings in 997.1s fail. And he also posted about serious issues with the 2010 and later 997.2 DFI motors.

But as Jake says, all he sees are the problems. In fact there are tens and tens and tens of thousands of Porsches from all the watercooled generations driving along and doing just fine without any retrofits.

And retro fitting your bearing doesn't spare you from bore scoring or D chunking...so the point is that no matter what you do or don't do, you run a risk of something failing. But not really that much of a risk compared to those who don't suffer those problems.

Hal

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...e-and-ims.html

Post 14 to figure out which bearing you have.

braymond52

There's no hard and fast rules regarding potential problems for these or any cars. I've got a 2005 Base with 30k miles on it. I bought it over a year ago with 20k miles and thought about the IMS issue for over a year before I decided to just go ahead and have it replaced. It's not cheap, but a new engine is much, much more.

The peace of mind is worth it to me. I drive the car and don't worry about it. And BTW: absolutely nothing has broken or needed repair in the 10k miles I've owned it. I realize that's not a lot of miles and it was a low mileage car to begin with. At the same time, Porsches are well built and reliable cars. Remember, this is the internet and people are far more inclined to post their grievances than they are to get on to just say everything is fine.

If you like the car and it passes a PPI and you can get it for a fair price, buy it. Then, go drive and have fun. You're going to love it. If the IMS issue troubles you, take it to a trusted Indy shop and get the bearing replaced.