"Can I drive your car?"
#46
Instructor
I typically never let anyone drive unless they're a fellow enthusiast. But then... I went on a date, a first date, and let her drive through the canyons at night. I then had to marry her so as to keep within the guidelines of close friends and family only.
#47
Burning Brakes
I understand the ethos of "it's just a car" but I've experienced the worst case scenario. Years ago a friend asked to drive my car at the end of the night getting a little too aggressive in wet weather and totalled my car.
The burden was on me (regardless of him driving). My wife and my dad are welcome to drive it if they'd want to, otherwise no way.
The burden was on me (regardless of him driving). My wife and my dad are welcome to drive it if they'd want to, otherwise no way.
#48
Race Car
I understand the ethos of "it's just a car" but I've experienced the worst case scenario. Years ago a friend asked to drive my car at the end of the night getting a little too aggressive in wet weather and totalled my car.
The burden was on me (regardless of him driving). My wife and my dad are welcome to drive it if they'd want to, otherwise no way.
The burden was on me (regardless of him driving). My wife and my dad are welcome to drive it if they'd want to, otherwise no way.
I would let an enthusiast drive it - especially if they can't afford one.
#49
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P.S. Methinks that the canyon drive wasn't the end of that first date!
#50
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#51
Instructor
I have been a P car enthusiast for 40 years. When I was younger I almost never let anyone drive my cars. As I have gotten older I am a more willing to let other folks drive as long as they know their way around a manual and a Porsche 's unique handling.
#52
Burning Brakes
I had my best friend drive the car this past weekend. He's got a bum left knee, so he couldn't quite get his clutch meet and shifting right on the 997.
I wanted to strangle him after a couple dragged-clutch starts and grinding gears, but he did let me date his sister, so I suppose I could forgive him.
I wanted to strangle him after a couple dragged-clutch starts and grinding gears, but he did let me date his sister, so I suppose I could forgive him.
#53
There is also the possibility of the person getting hurt and suing your @ss. I have coverage for that too. I have a coworker who has a multi-millionaire father. He buys new cars every year. Currently lineup includes the 991TT, Ferrari 458, a Bentley and some other cars. He tells me that his father doesn't let him drive it, not even sit in it and he can only admired the car a feet away. It blows my mind, I can't comprehend it. It's your son, not a stranger. My gf now wife learned how to drive in my brand new eagle talon back in the days. She ran it into a tree. So you would think I am the last person to let anyone drive my cars again.
#54
Burning Brakes
~William Shakespeare, Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78
#55
Drifting
It's funny; I'd never even consider letting anyone besides me and my wife drive my car, any of them, even the pedestrian ones, because of liability.
Yet I autocross and have no problem tossing a friend the keys knowing full well they're going to thrash the crap out of it. Probably a dozen different people have driven my porsches, and I've offered co-drives to many more. I'd never let anyone else drive it on the track, though. Funny the difference context and perceived risk takes.
Yet I autocross and have no problem tossing a friend the keys knowing full well they're going to thrash the crap out of it. Probably a dozen different people have driven my porsches, and I've offered co-drives to many more. I'd never let anyone else drive it on the track, though. Funny the difference context and perceived risk takes.
#56
Former Vendor
He sends his car to Denver for service. It often takes weeks for parts to arrive from the UK. I would be terrified to own a Lotus if they go belly up, that's not going to get better.
#57
when we go on vacation i give /offer the cars to a few neighbors [one is terrified to drive it and always says no but his wife wants it]. another neighbor 80years old had a blast in it for 2 weeks. if i trust ya.....have a ball.....if i dont ....you aint gettin the key its a car built at best by the evil elves from the black forest .....it aint built by the gods for the gods
#58
Race Car
when we go on vacation i give /offer the cars to a few neighbors [one is terrified to drive it and always says no but his wife wants it]. another neighbor 80years old had a blast in it for 2 weeks. if i trust ya.....have a ball.....if i dont ....you aint gettin the key its a car built at best by the evil elves from the black forest .....it aint built by the gods for the gods
#59
I'm not a lawyer.
#60
Burning Brakes
No. Simple. Most people don't drive manuals anymore - so that makes it an easy decision…
That said - I couldn't wait to hand the keys over to any of the HPDE instructors as long as they took me for a ride. I'm okay letting someone thrash my car - as long as they know how to do it.
Interesting dichotomy of hypocrisy.
That said - I couldn't wait to hand the keys over to any of the HPDE instructors as long as they took me for a ride. I'm okay letting someone thrash my car - as long as they know how to do it.
Interesting dichotomy of hypocrisy.