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Old 04-19-2014, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Volnomad
Wow, this is terrible. As a marketing professional, I find it mind-boggling that a luxury product manufacturer with a sterling public reputation would let this problem escalate to a world-wide public relations disaster. Interesting case to talk about in MBA classes, and a good lesson for marketing decision makers.
This is not their first time down this path. Far from it. This is how they do business. They settle when things get out of hand. Not until though. Remember this one? 53 pages long and almost 80,000 views.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-poor-car.html
Old 04-19-2014, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
This is not their first time down this path. Far from it. This is how they do business. They settle when things get out of hand. Not until though. Remember this one? 53 pages long and almost 80,000 views.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-poor-car.html
I think the one you are referring to was more of a dealer problem, right? The lemon on this thread was sold new, and therefore, was a Porsche manufacturing problem. Yes, both affect Porsche's image, but I find the current lemon problem even more disturbing.
Old 04-20-2014, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Volnomad
I think the one you are referring to was more of a dealer problem, right? The lemon on this thread was sold new, and therefore, was a Porsche manufacturing problem. Yes, both affect Porsche's image, but I find the current lemon problem even more disturbing.
Yes and no. The dealer sold a certified car that clearly should not have been certified and then refused to make the buyer whole. That's a dealer problem. It also became a PCNA problem however since PCNA advertises and brags about the certification process and the strict standards that must be met in order for a car to pass. This dealership completely ignored the CPO standards advertised by PCNA which essentially turned that advertising into false advertising. Yet, PCNA did nothing and ignored repeated requests for assistance by the customer.
Old 04-20-2014, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by eflight
The real lesson here to all the manufactures is that the world has changed

In the past they could treat a problem customer as an isolated problem. Help the customer as much or as little as they wanted. If the customer did not like the result, well then that was just too bad. Really could not hurt the company all that much. Even if the customer took out a newspaper add it really did not get circulated to all that many people, not at a national level anyways. Worst case the customer doesn't buy their next car from the same company

Those days are gone. There is no longer any isolated problem. If the customer feels mistreated he can now take the issue public. He can even get on national TV if his complaint goes viral. Millions of people will now learn about the problem. Millions of potential customers now decide if that company is one they want to do business with.

Its a lesson learned to all. Think about all the things this guy did and what really forced PCNA to do the right thing. It wasn't those visits to the dealer, it wasn't the letters to PCNA. It wasn't the threat of a lawyer. All the things most people resort to.

All true. Also true is that the internet and social media gives EVERYONE a voice, including those not aggrieved, not discriminated against, not mistreated, and often not shy about trying to get something for nothing.
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This guy is brilliant. Having been down the lemon rabbit hole before with VW in the days before social media I feel for him.

Fortunately my C4S has been a gem with the one issue that resulted in three separate trips to the shop being resolved finally.
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Yes and no. The dealer sold a certified car that clearly should not have been certified and then refused to make the buyer whole. That's a dealer problem. It also became a PCNA problem however since PCNA advertises and brags about the certification process and the strict standards that must be met in order for a car to pass. This dealership completely ignored the CPO standards advertised by PCNA which essentially turned that advertising into false advertising. Yet, PCNA did nothing and ignored repeated requests for assistance by the customer.
Yep, I remember. Bad stuff in both cases. By the way, Sandwedge, I really like your new ride.
Old 04-22-2014, 02:03 AM
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Default PCNA ...not the first customer they've run off

Haven't been on this forum for years....

My 993 had 2, yes, 2 wiring harness fires and failures and PCNA totally blew me off. Park Place Dallas told me they tried....PCNA ignored my calls/letters.

Enjoying my Maserati Gran Turismo Sport, but still turn to look at the 991, 997 and 993. That's the problem....even with pathetic customer abuse, I still love the P cars......Ugh.



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