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Old 06-12-2013, 01:52 PM
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While ashamed to admit it, there have been 2-3 times that I've stalled the 997.1. Usually while I'm distracted and "trolling" in a parking lot, though I recall once was at a stoplight....yeah, embarrassing, and I should probably be put on Rennlist probation. Apparently, I've learned little about driving a manual for the past 20+ years.

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced their 997 being very fickle when trying to start it immediately after stalling it? Mine acts almost like a flooded car. Sometimes requiring 1, 2 or even 3 turns of the key before she comes back to life. Very strange. I always turn the ignition all the way off before I try to restart it; either way, I wonder if it's a quirk unique to my car, or maybe the 997.1 in general.

Anyone else had a similar observation?

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Old 06-12-2013, 01:55 PM
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In my previous 2007, starting after a stall was pretty difficult. I was reciting prayers in my head for it to "catch" and lessen the embarrassment It got progressively worse, no I didnt stall that often, but restarting after the car was warm in general. turned out to be a bad alternator cable... was pretty common for the vintage and I learned about it here on RL
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I've stalled my 2005 a couple of times. I've noticed that the restart takes longer than the initial start--maybe twice as long. As a rough estimate, initial start takes maybe 2 seconds. Restart is more like 4 seconds. She's always caught on the first restart attempt, though. I've never needed to go to a second or third try.
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@Slamuth Glad you posted this as I thought I was the only one lol! I stall it every once in a blue moon when I'm not paying attention and it does sometimes require 2-3 turns of the key before she starts up again. My car is also an 05 997 C2S and it does turn out from what I read that a bad alternator cable can cause this as suggested by PasPar2.

It can be pretty embarrassing sometimes, but that's why I love my 997 so much. I get rewarded when I drive and shift well, and when I'm distracted or not paying attention she shows me her dis pleasures!
Old 06-12-2013, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PasPar2
In my previous 2007, starting after a stall was pretty difficult. I was reciting prayers in my head for it to "catch" and lessen the embarrassment It got progressively worse, no I didnt stall that often, but restarting after the car was warm in general. turned out to be a bad alternator cable... was pretty common for the vintage and I learned about it here on RL
Not sure why a bad alternator cable would cause hard starts unless the battery was weak due to not getting a proper charge. Did you get any more info when it was changed out?
Old 06-12-2013, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AceOfAces
@Slamuth Glad you posted this as I thought I was the only one lol!
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:58 PM
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2007 C4S 6 speed; 55K

So I've had numerous warm restart issues. My alternator cable was replaced last year, new battery with higher CCA, new alternator, and complete work-thru @ 2 independent dealerships...

It seems to be most fickle with hot starts, after 30 min + of spirited driving. BUT, after a stall, it's a different issue that compounds the [perceived] problem: when a stall occurs, the gas line is cut-off and either the key needs to be turned all the way counterclockwise, or better, completely removed from the starter slot. It has to do with accidents and automatic shut-off in terms of a spark or misfire that could ignite remaining fuel. It's a protective mechanism of sorts. In an accident, you'd effectively stall the car at impact, though that would be the least of your concerns.

DO get your alternator cable checked, replaced, etc. The replacement is a more robust cable because this is a known issue to Porsche.

But remember to take a breath, stay calm, remove key from ignition slot, wait a second or two, and then reinsert, crank.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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I have a pdk car now but I have noticed this in other german cars (bmw's). It would behave the exact same way as you described.
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me4! I get exactly the same difficult restart after a stall. This is NOT the same as a hot start issue related to the alternator cable or starter wiring harness, nor the bad battery. This occurs immediately after stalling in traffic or something similar. Like other posters, glad it's not just me..
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May sound strange but hard hot starts can be caused by a bad - or going bad - coolant temperature sensor. The ECU needs to know the engine temp to provide the correct air/fuel mixture or the engine won't start.

Had this problem on two different Audis. New coolant temp sensor solved the problem.
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Once again, this forum has proven invaluable. I had a feeling it might be a trait of the 997 in general, and not unique to my car. There are a couple good potential explanations above; but either way, it's simply nice to have some validation from the group. Seems the short-term solution is to stop driving like an absent-minded teenager.
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It would be informative to know everyone's model year. I have an '08 C2S and I've stalled but I don't recall any difficulty restarting.
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Originally Posted by Slamuth
While ashamed to admit it, there have been 2-3 times that I've stalled the 997.1. Usually while I'm distracted and "trolling" in a parking lot, though I recall once was at a stoplight....yeah, embarrassing, and I should probably be put on Rennlist probation. Apparently, I've learned little about driving a manual for the past 20+ years.

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced their 997 being very fickle when trying to start it immediately after stalling it? Mine acts almost like a flooded car. Sometimes requiring 1, 2 or even 3 turns of the key before she comes back to life. Very strange. I always turn the ignition all the way off before I try to restart it; either way, I wonder if it's a quirk unique to my car, or maybe the 997.1 in general.

Anyone else had a similar observation?
i would pay close attention to whats going on, when you try and restart does it crank over at normal rpm. This is a very common problem, i would have a good hard look....ok do a voltage drop test on the cable, if its more than .5v the cable needs to be replaced. You will be amazed at how much faster the engine will wind over warm or cold.
Old 06-13-2013, 07:22 AM
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I had the alternator cable replaced under warranty and the car will start after stalling, but it does crank more slowly. I replaced the battery 2 years ago so I never fail to start but it sure doesn't seem to like the exercise.
I try to give it a few seconds depending on where I happen to be at the time :-)


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