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Luxter 03-12-2013 09:11 PM

IMS Class action
 
Has this been covered on RL already?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...e+IMS+failures

Surely will increase value of 996/997.
Cheers,
=L=

zer026T 03-12-2013 09:21 PM

Hey Luxter, it was posted in the 996 forum:

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-mar-12-a.html

MLindgren 03-12-2013 10:04 PM

Shown as an announcement at the top of 997 forum too.

vrnkc 03-13-2013 01:14 AM

My VIN is not on the list, yet I have a 2005 997
manufactured during the listed time frame. Any idea why? Why would same vehicle be put together with different parts?

Hella-Buggin' 03-13-2013 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by vrnkc (Post 10296471)
My VIN is not on the list, yet I have a 2005 997
manufactured during the listed time frame. Any idea why? Why would same vehicle be put together with different parts?

When they realized the flawed design they upgraded it at some point in Early 2005.

alexb76 03-13-2013 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by vrnkc (Post 10296471)
My VIN is not on the list, yet I have a 2005 997
manufactured during the listed time frame. Any idea why? Why would same vehicle be put together with different parts?

They said until February 2005 manufactured date, so if you find your manufactured date you can clarify if you're part of the upgraded ones, or fall under the Class action!

BTW, this Class Action is LONG OVER-DUE! I simply cannot believe a company like Porsche has rolled out an inferior part in a 100K+ car that may cause catastrophic engine failure, and they would NOT stand behind their product when a customer is just outside that 4yrs window, knowing very well, the failure is due to their flawed design that they themselves realized and fixed in later years! Good for whoever pursued this...

SecretAsianMan 03-13-2013 03:22 AM

If I'm reading this right I think my VIN is affected :(

54k miles so far with no problems so I hope it's alright... On the other hand if it's going to blow I hope it happens within the time limit.

Putting a 10 year time limit is kind of BS on a car that most owners will put <5000 miles/year on.

Slamuth 03-13-2013 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by SecretAsianMan (Post 10296624)
If I'm reading this right I think my VIN is affected :(

Same for me. I'll have to re-read the legal summary when I have more time.

JW911 03-14-2013 09:38 AM

Very difficult to figure out those VIN ranges on that list. Anyone know of a simpler way to interpret if my VIN is affected or not?

vrnkc 03-14-2013 12:18 PM

JW911 . Agree- Can't figure VIN ranges!!! What am I missing?

D1coach 03-14-2013 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by vrnkc (Post 10296471)
My VIN is not on the list, yet I have a 2005 997
manufactured during the listed time frame. Any idea why? Why would same vehicle be put together with different parts?

My car was an early 05, delivered in August 04 but my VIN is not included in the list either. Since I have an aftermarket warranty through Sept 2017 it is not an issue with me.

hurricanesteve 03-14-2013 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by BSL (Post 6445425)
Pretty close...

WP0 - Manufactured in Germany by Porsche
C - Body Code (Cabriolet)
A - Engine Code (Base)
2 - Restraint System (airbag)
99 - first 2 digits of model range
5 - Test Digit (basically meaningless)
5 - Model year
S - Assembled in Stuttgart
7 - 3rd digit of model range
55227 - Sequence of production

Here's the VIN decode from a previous post...so just find the sequence for your car and focus on the last 5 digits

CORSASCHNELL 03-14-2013 04:50 PM

I have participated in several Class Action cases. It seems like the lawyers get almost all the money and the participants end up for $3.54. I just throw away the notifications now.

GSIRM3 03-14-2013 05:09 PM

I have a friend with a 2003 996 C4S. He never drives the car much (only has about 16K miles on it). I guess if he has an IMS failure, he is SOL since the notice says no pay if the car was delivered 10 years ago. Too bad for him if his fails at 20K miles.

Mspeedster 03-14-2013 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by JW911 (Post 10299779)
Very difficult to figure out those VIN ranges on that list. Anyone know of a simpler way to interpret if my VIN is affected or not?

This site explains the VIN for all Porsches in detail: http://stuttcars.com/technical/vin-decoder/

The MY05 997 cars affected are the ones that fall in these VIN ranges:
o WP0AA29905S715077-WP0AA29905S717475
o WP0AB299X5S740081-WP0AB29955S742109
o WP0CA29935S755064-WP0CA29935S755209
o WP0CB29915S765072-WP0CB29925S765212
o WP0ZZZ99Z5S731099
o WP0ZZZ99Z5S701444

*Note: Ignore the 9th digit (checksum digit), it's has no meaning and it's the number that throws the sequence off. Once you find the matching sequence, concentrate on the last 5 digits to see if your VIN falls in the range.

WP0ZZZ is actually for European cars, so it's odd that these are also included in the PCNA suit.

Also, in reading through the 996 thread on this, it seems like it's not only the build date of between May 4, 2001 - Feb 20, 2005, but the VIN number too. Some 996 owners have found their car's build date falls into the range of dates, but can not find their VIN listed in the range. Which could mean either they don't know how to read the VIN sequence right or maybe not all cars built between these dates have suspect IMS bearings. Leading some to believe Porsche knows exactly which cars may have weaker IMS bearings, perhaps due to a specific supplier.


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