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patpetillo 12-22-2012 07:52 AM

Ceramic Composite Brakes-PCCB
 
I am a new member to the forum and have been struggling with my decision to buy a 991 or 997. I am currently leanings towards a used 2010 991 C4S Cab with 5K miles that is loaded with the options I like.

One option that the car has is Ceramic Composite Brakes-PCCB. If I was building this car, I would have not paid nor picked this option.

Does anyone here have any feedback or experience with theses brakes?

Domer911 12-22-2012 10:23 AM

no experience with it, but I'm so irreversibly anal, that I would have given my left knut for PCCB. Both of my p-cars put out an astronomical amount of brake dust.

Zeus993 12-22-2012 11:57 AM

Owned them on my C2S and loved them. Fantastic stopping power - something estimated like 2500hp - no break dust. They are noted to 'groan', as mine did. Irritating but not technically a problem. Would I chose them on a future car? Hands down yes. I'd go for the 997.2 you are looking at. A C4S is a GREAT car.

cvtbenhogan 12-22-2012 12:03 PM

Most accounts here are extremely positive. No fade, rotors last nearly forever, and zero dust. What more can one ask from brakes.

Wish I had this option, particularly from a cleaning standpoint. Lots of brake dust on these cars.

BTW, the yellow calipers look really cool.

Renzsport 12-22-2012 04:08 PM

PCCB are extraordinary. Maybe not as much initial bite as steel esp when cold, but they should never fade on you - very beneficial if you're into de/autox
Apparently they are very fragile, chip and crack really easy. So make sure you/your shop is extra careful around them, rotor replacement costs big $$$$$$

mattyf 12-22-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Renzsport (Post 10091435)
Apparently they are very fragile, chip and crack really easy. So make sure you/your shop is extra careful around them, rotor replacement costs big $$$$$$

But if they crack, you can always replace them with steelies.

gellie 12-22-2012 05:56 PM

Love mine. Now spoiled for future purchases. No regrets.

MLindgren 12-22-2012 08:25 PM

Love mine. If you plan on tracking hard you may burn them up. In normal aggressive driving they should last a couple hundred thousand miles and produce no brake dust.

Buy yourself the wheel alignment tools so you or somebody doesn't accidentally drop the wheel on the rotor when removing the wheels.
:thumbup:

Edgy01 12-22-2012 08:42 PM

I ordered mine with the PCCBs and have been very pleased with my decision. It really came down to age. I'm getting too old to be down cleaning wheels. I rarely have to now. They essentially create no dust. That always means that you get tremendous service life from them--little pad wear, providing you are an average street driver. If you're some Danny Sullivan wanna be--forget it. My next Porsche will have them, as well.

gvcap10 12-23-2012 11:08 AM

Have them and absolutely love them!!! If you can get one with them, GET IT!!!

sclemmons 12-23-2012 11:54 PM

You are right about not having picked them if we were building to order. I don't have them and wish I did. With PCCB's, you can change out your wheels to something very light, like Fiskes or Champions, and really appreciate the advantage. The lower unsprung weight is a benefit you can feel in the driver's seat during braking, acceleration, and handling. Between the PCCB and the AeroKit+Painted SeatBacks, which I have on my car, the PCCB is much more noticeable for the same money. Had I ordered the car, instead of buying it second hand, I would have gone for the PCCB option.

Ron Adair 12-29-2012 01:32 PM

Sex on wheels...
 
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Just posted these pics on another thread... but what the heck? They are soooo sexy!

Para82 12-29-2012 11:42 PM

They're awesome. They look all business and have enormous strength, one of my favorite options on mine after 4 years of ownership.

P0rsch3F113 12-30-2012 12:50 AM

If you live in a colder climate (like me) and don't intend to track the car at all, then save your money - not worth it.

If you don't live in a colder climate and can afford them, get 'em. If you're going to track the car, get 'em...nothing stops the car better, and the hotter they get, the better they work! They're also lighter than the steelies.


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