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Old 08-31-2012, 03:04 AM
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Porsche horde defends its own

After fines, club says members not speedsters

BY JEN ST. DENIS, NORTH SHORE NEWS AUGUST 22, 2012


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Bob Benson, past president of a local Porsche club, with his 1993 Porsche RS America. The club has tightened up its rules after four members were caught speeding during an early morning driving tour.
Photograph by: Paul McGrath , NEWS
THE leaders of a Lower Mainland Porsche club that made headlines earlier this month when some of its members were reportedly clocked doing as much as 50 kilometres per hour over the speed limit are defending their organization's reputation.

Four members of the local chapter of the Porsche Club of America were pulled over Aug. 4 after a West Vancouver police officer reported the luxury car drivers reaching speeds of between 125 and 131 k.p.h. in an 80-zone. In addition to hefty fines, the drivers had their cars impounded for seven days and were the target of some uncomfortable media attention.

At the time, the members were travelling in an early morning convoy of about 50 of the club's Porsches. Members of the group had been warned for speeding just one week before the incident, at the same location by the same traffic officer.

But the club is not a haven for daredevil street racers, said Ray Gumbel, president of the organization's Western Canada chapter.

"It's a car enthusiast club," said Gumbel. "We do social events, show-and-shines, autocross events, driver education days at Mission raceway, and a lot of driving tours."

The early morning excursion, called Bob's Breakfast Club, leaves from West Vancouver every second Saturday morning during the spring and summer. Drivers head up to Squamish and then return to the North Shore, usually meeting up at the Tomahawk Restaurant for breakfast around 8 a.m. The tour was started by past Porsche Club president Bob Benson and has been going for 15 years.

"We've never had an incident like this," said Gumbel. The early morning tour is meant to be a leisurely drive on empty roads, said Gumbel. The breakfast club has strict rules: Drivers of Porsches must obey traffic laws and are not allowed to pass each other.

If club leaders do notice drivers who are not following the rules, "we pull them over and we say: 'Listen, this is just a driving tour, and if you want to go race we have track events for that," said Gumbel. "Or we ask them to leave this event because it would nullify our insurance."

Since the Aug. 4 incident, club leaders have spoken to the four drivers, who are all still members of the club. The drivers have hired lawyers and will likely be contesting the traffic tickets they received, said Bob Benson.

Meanwhile, the club is focused on maintaining good relations with the WVPD. Gumbel has also spoken with the constable who pulled the men over.

"He's not out to shut us down," said Benson of the police officer. "He wants us to go a little slower."

At an Aug. 18 meeting, club members agreed to tighten up the rules to make it easier to identify drivers. The insurance waiver forms participants sign will now include the driver's licence number and the vehicle make and licence plate, information that will allow the club to "more readily police any known infractions . . . and deal with them on a one-to-one basis," said Benson.

It's an exclusive club, but Gumbel and Benson want North Shore residents to know that the members of the Porsche club don't think they're above the law.

"We're going to proceed with having the drive, but have a lot more responsibility to our participants and their actions," said Benson. The next breakfast club ride will likely take place on Sunday, Sept. 9.

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something all car forums should do if they organize cruises as well. It's usually a few jackasses that gives the organizers a bad rep.
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no passing? Leisurely drive?

why bother?
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no passing? Leisurely drive?

why bother?
Sounds like an old ladies' needlepoint group out for a Sunday drive.
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The last couple times on the road with the Porshce Club a few of us have been going a few MPH over the speed limit. I'm a little nervous that we could be pushing our luck. Only takes one Sherif coming or going home to ruin your day.
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Originally Posted by Chimcu View Post
something all car forums should do if they organize cruises as well. It's usually a few jackasses that gives the organizers a bad rep.
+1 ...judging by the last two runs I've been on, it's the BMW M drivers in dire need of some maturity...just sayin'.
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Take 30 well to do executives and put them together with their Porsches and they all become 18 year old children.

It's a proven fact.
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Originally Posted by Skibum View Post
Take 30 well to do executives and put them together with their Porsches and they all become 18 year old children.

It's a proven fact.
Any PCA runs I've been on (not many) there have been less than 15 cars involved and all have obeyed traffic laws. Both Exotic Car Runs I've been on have involved multiple marques with over 45 cars involved - and I've witnessed "incidents" (here, I define this as not merely exceeding the speed limit, but reckless/careless driving) where laws were not obeyed (coincidentally(?), involving BMW M drivers).

Something about the larger groups perhaps?
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OMG!! 31 mph over the speed limit! How else do you ever warm these things up? Note to self: Avoid BC for spirited driving.
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Originally Posted by Edgy01 View Post
OMG!! 31 mph over the speed limit! How else do you ever warm these things up? Note to self: Avoid BC for spirited driving.
ha ha it's true!
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If its a true "club" event it gets a little tricky when insurance is involved. If something goes wrong you could loose that privilege in the future.
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Originally Posted by Edgy01 View Post
OMG!! 31 mph over the speed limit! How else do you ever warm these things up? Note to self: Avoid BC for spirited driving.
+1 to that!

This idiot officer was on a witch hunt! I've done that run many times... it's actually very mature driving, about or just above speed limit, and NOTHING crazy! Cops knew about it, and knew it's done at 5am to ensure safety.

That stretch, if they took the average speed of ALL drivers they will ALL be above the speed limit, it's ridicolous how they made it look like.
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I've never found the Candian police to have much in the way of a sense of humor. My guess is most Candians feel the same about Ohio's finest.
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What's the point of going on one these outings if you have to drive under the speed limit?

Unsafe driving is one thing, but the speed limits are so low that it's become almost impossible for anyone, not just Porsche drivers to stay under them. It's a shame that you can't go out in the country once in a while for some spirited driving, and enjoy your car....

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Originally Posted by theporscheguy View Post
If its a true "club" event it gets a little tricky when insurance is involved. If something goes wrong you could loose that privilege in the future.
I apologize, off topic. Your car (in Avatar) is like dangling heroin in front of a recovering Porsche addict!!!
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