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Old 07-18-2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JMon
WoW I'm really not coming up with much here.
A few "rebuilt engines" for around $25k, and one used one for $19k. Not having a core is really hurting me.
It might be cheaper to just sell the body and consider it a loss. To replace the engine is more than 1/2 the price the car is worth.

I've found completed sales < $8k but nothing current.

Anyone want a carrera S with a blown engine?
i think your best bet is to put a $25k motor from a good reputable rebuilder.
_properly_ built M97 engine from a good shop will last very long time.

rollers 997S do not cost much. racers do not use them, if you had 4S it would be slightly better as widebody tub matches cup and RS cars track, but narrowbody tub is not really in demand, so, you decide.

how did you manage to ruin a core? was it a broken rod after all? or a crack on 6th cylinder?

I also sent you PM some time ago - did you call that shop?
Old 07-23-2012, 11:50 PM
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A crack in front of the block, Cylinder 1 and 2 gone. Don't know much more than that. But probably a complete loss from what I understand.
Old 07-24-2012, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Shannon405
At what point do you turn to RUF or something? Don't they have a shop in Texas now?
+1...Jared...send the car to Ruf!!!!!
Old 07-24-2012, 06:26 AM
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Seems a shame engines have to be so expensive and hard to find for these cars. Please don't chop my head off for this sugestion but try googling "Renegade hybrids". They can drop a crate LS V8 in it for a lot less. I don't know the price but the LS is bullet proof ,cost a lot less and is easy to work on. They have some videos on utube that look interesting.
Old 07-24-2012, 06:47 AM
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That sucks man! It also SUCKS that Porsche doesn't help in any way whatsoever! I mean come one, 90% of the blown engines are because of IMS failures of the earlier IMS designs... those pre-2005 designs had to be recalled IMO! Now, they don't even try to do ****e to help Porsche owners?!

PS. Did you check with suncoast? Gotto be patient, I've seen engines come around once in a while, and if you found a core, I suggest to add the heavily discounted X51 kit from suncoast that includes airbox, cylinder heads, intake, etc... to go along with it.

PS2. You saw this, right? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...18a282&vxp=mtr

or this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Carrera...item3f1a2027cc
Old 07-24-2012, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by alexb76
That sucks man! It also SUCKS that Porsche doesn't help in any way whatsoever! I mean come one, 90% of the blown engines are because of IMS failures of the earlier IMS designs... those pre-2005 designs had to be recalled IMO! Now, they don't even try to do ****e to help Porsche owners?!

PS. Did you check with suncoast? Gotto be patient, I've seen engines come around once in a while, and if you found a core, I suggest to add the heavily discounted X51 kit from suncoast that includes airbox, cylinder heads, intake, etc... to go along with it.

PS2. You saw this, right? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...18a282&vxp=mtr

or this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Carrera...item3f1a2027cc
Yeah I agree with you. Porsche should fix what is an obvious defect even though the car is a bit older.
Old 07-24-2012, 11:22 PM
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I don't think it was an IMS failure. I had the LN Engineering bearing in it.
I think it was a rod failure. I'm starting to find out a lot about these engines and weak rods/bolts.
I've seen both engines on e-bay. Both priced pretty high in my opinion. Especially for an engine that most likely has fundamental issues with its design.
The lower mileage one wants an additional $3000 for the core. ( I don’t think they would accept mine)
The other my work, but still seems pretty high for the mileage.

I guess at this point I’m looking for one of the following.
1) A lower priced used option <10k
2) A good rebuild option ~15k
3) Race level type engine (Possibly something like a Koni Challenge or something like that) This can be a 3.6 if it is built.
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Jared, have you called John over at BGB in Daytona? They have run the Grand Am series forever with 996 and 997 street cars.
Old 07-25-2012, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JMon
I don't think it was an IMS failure. I had the LN Engineering bearing in it.
I think it was a rod failure. I'm starting to find out a lot about these engines and weak rods/bolts.
I've seen both engines on e-bay. Both priced pretty high in my opinion. Especially for an engine that most likely has fundamental issues with its design.
The lower mileage one wants an additional $3000 for the core. ( I don’t think they would accept mine)
The other my work, but still seems pretty high for the mileage.

I guess at this point I’m looking for one of the following.
1) A lower priced used option <10k
2) A good rebuild option ~15k
3) Race level type engine (Possibly something like a Koni Challenge or something like that) This can be a 3.6 if it is built.
Negotiate... those are asking prices. I think it's not that's hard to get the 14K one for 10K... offer what you think is fair, then leave it. If they don't get any other requests they'd come back to you!
Old 07-29-2012, 10:18 PM
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I know it's not a 3.8, but FYI There is a 3.6 on ebay with 22k miles. Buy it now is $7250.
Old 07-29-2012, 10:30 PM
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"Especially for an engine that most likely has fundamental issues with its design. "

Really ? If that's the case, then the design would have failed in all the engines.
Old 08-02-2012, 11:37 PM
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There is an engine on sale on page 2 of 6 speed parts section. $6400 with 20k.
Not sure if it would work but it may be worth a look
Old 08-07-2012, 10:43 PM
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Still looking for a 997.1 3.8 L engine
Old 08-07-2012, 11:03 PM
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Since misery loves company, I also suffered a broken connecting rod as well this past Friday. Finding a used engine is difficult. Most likely I am going to just sell my car and move on.
Old 08-10-2012, 04:11 PM
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JMon and ajayabb: Could you tell us the milage and MY of your cars when it got that failure? Are there any preventive inspections or work that can be done to avoid this outcome?


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