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jfk308 05-29-2012 03:15 PM

Headlight Restoration
 
My 997's headlights are getting quite cloudy. I've bought the 3M Headlight Restoration Kit and was planning to try that. Has anyone had success on a 997 with this kit? I've heard that there is a coating on the headlights. The 3M system would obviously remove that original coating, and that concerns me. Is there any way to reapply the coating after the restoration?

Fahrer 05-29-2012 03:28 PM

Headlights are made from polycarbonate. That resin offers good impact resistance from road debris and enable the car to pass pedestrian impact standards. The problem with polycarbonate is that is has terrible chemical resistance ( don't ever get isopropanol on it or it will crack before your eyes, literally)and yellows in sunlight. "Hard coatngs" are applied to polycarbonate for such applications to enable a longer life. If one polishes a car the headlamp lenses should not be polished or one can remove the hard coating leading to hazing and/or yellowing of the plastic.

The coating on your headlamps is likely gone or damaged. Therefore, the 3M system will not really do any damage. Some of those headlamp restoring kits come with a new protective coating that can be applied to the headlamp. My guess is that it is not the same as the original coating.

I would say you have nothing to lose by trying the product. Now just watch your paint during the process.:)

Spoddle 05-29-2012 04:22 PM

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I just performed headlight correction on my Carrera S this past weekend. Bellow are pictures showing before during and after. I used the Meguiars heavy duty headlight restoration kit.

http://images.meguiarsdirect.com/imagesEdp/p135894z.jpg

Before
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After
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IslandS52 05-29-2012 04:39 PM

Once you've "restored" the lens, you can keep it from clouding by applying clear bra or headlight protection film on the light i.e. xpel or stongard. I did this on my wife's X5 and problem solved.

07C4S 05-29-2012 04:43 PM

I've seen some posts reporting a fried "frunk" module after buffing the headlights. May want to pull them and do the job off the car. Try a search for more info. Can't recall if I saw that info here or 6speed.

Spoddle 05-29-2012 04:47 PM

The previous owner of my car actually experienced this "fried" module issue. It cost him over $600 to get it addressed by the dealer. As a pre-emptive step I simply disconnected the battery before buffing the headlights. I had no issues except having to drive car around the block to get the ECU to read the PSM and PASM systems which automatically cleared the recorded faults.

PHX 911 05-29-2012 07:26 PM

You can use your normal car polish and polisher on the headlights.
If you don't have one it may make sense to use a drill mounted buffer, but if you already have a car polisher, just use it with the same polishes you use on your clear coat.

USMC_DS1 05-29-2012 07:36 PM

I would remove the headlights. That way you won't have to worry about the car's paint nor the frying affect.

997sxv 05-29-2012 10:35 PM

I use griots glass polish and apple rejex to act as a sealer. No problems with the truck release so far.

jfk308 05-07-2013 03:24 PM

I tried the Maguiar's Heavy Duty Headlight Restoration Kit this weekend without much success. The headlight looks pretty much the same as it did before. I wonder if I applied enough pressure on the sanding, or if I buffed it long enough. Spoddle do you have any advice?

Quadcammer 05-07-2013 04:34 PM

why would polishing the headlight covers cause fried modules? static electricity?

mattyf 05-07-2013 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Quadcammer (Post 10444212)
why would polishing the headlight covers cause fried modules? static electricity?

Yep. There's a thread on renntech about it.

ECS Tuning 05-08-2013 12:56 PM

We offer a kit from CCP to restore the look of your headlights. Customers have had great success with it so far. I would remove the headlights though just to prevent any damage to any paint or modules. Shown below if a before and after shot on a 996. For more information Click Here.

http://c1521972.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/...5251_large.jpg

stronbl 05-08-2013 02:34 PM

I've done my own headlight restorations on many cars over the years (I use 1500 & 3000 grit wet sandpaper, followed by rubbing compound then polish) and what has worked best for the final coating and in my experience has lasted at least 2 years after application is a 50-50 mix of Helmsman Spar Varnish and Mineral Spirits. Mix it up and apply with a blue shop towel as your brush. Brush it on evenly and uniform. It dries perfectly clear and since it is a marine spar varnish it has superior UV protection. Slow and easy is the key but results are typically better than most aftermarket UV coatings.

doc-jj 11-23-2021 02:26 PM

3M Headlight Restoration Kit Works GREAT!!
 
I have a 996 with 20-year-old headlight lenses. They were so cloudy and yellowed you could not see anything inside. ( I should have taken a photo of how bad they were.) Shop said UV damage was too deep to sand off. So for under $20, I tried the 3M #39195 Ultra Headlight Restoration Kit that requires an electric drill. Instructions and videos are very good. Label says it takes only 40 min. It took me almost 4 hours total for both, but it turned out BEAUTIFUL!! Headlight units look like super clear new glass!!
Hot Tip: After the last two sanding steps (2 and 3), finish it off with some light hand sanding!! Works Wonders!!
Those folks at 3M know their stuff!!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a606912d2.jpeg
Wow! Looks brand new again! Sorry I forgot to take a 'before' photo.

rsinghal3 11-23-2021 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by stronbl (Post 10446776)
I've done my own headlight restorations on many cars over the years (I use 1500 & 3000 grit wet sandpaper, followed by rubbing compound then polish) and what has worked best for the final coating and in my experience has lasted at least 2 years after application is a 50-50 mix of Helmsman Spar Varnish and Mineral Spirits. Mix it up and apply with a blue shop towel as your brush. Brush it on evenly and uniform. It dries perfectly clear and since it is a marine spar varnish it has superior UV protection. Slow and easy is the key but results are typically better than most aftermarket UV coatings.

This sounds like a great idea thanks for the tip. For my knowledge, any reason not to use it straight out the can? Curious as to what the mixing of mineral spirits does. Thanks for any insight on it.

voiceprint1 11-24-2021 12:06 AM

you really need to seal the lens after any treatment, and even the most careful job will leave some low and high spotting on the original lens. I had a shop restore mine and they basically finished it with clear coat, which has not changed in two+ years.

Wayne Smith 11-24-2021 01:10 AM

After mine suffered from a Mojave Desert sandstorm they were polished and painted with a 5% black coat for UV protection and to hide any remaining blemishes. That surface has suffered some rock chips since but is holding up well otherwise.

Ericson38 11-24-2021 10:56 AM

I just used the 3M #39195 Ultra Headlight Restoration Kit on our 2009 Cayenne and had similar results. And I checked the price of an OEM headlight shell----$1609 each. Oh no.

2008-2010 Porsche Cayenne Headlamp Assembly 958-941-030-G | Delaware Porsche Parts

bheit1 11-24-2021 08:59 PM

My wife's Lexus headlights are beginning to cloud. They aren't bad so I put on a high quality polish (can't remember what brand, just make sure it's compatible with plastic). Even that restored them fairly well without an abrasive treatment. The Lexus dealer recommended the 3M kit. Pretty sure that includes a protective clear coat.

Ericson38 11-24-2021 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by bheit1 (Post 17806205)
My wife's Lexus headlights are beginning to cloud. They aren't bad so I put on a high quality polish (can't remember what brand, just make sure it's compatible with plastic). Even that restored them fairly well without an abrasive treatment. The Lexus dealer recommended the 3M kit. Pretty sure that includes a protective clear coat.

Yes it does. Two applications, about 20 minutes between coats.

Battouter 11-25-2021 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Fahrer (Post 9569294)
"Hard coatngs" are applied to polycarbonate for such applications to enable a longer life.

been trying to search for an answer for years. so has anyone figured out what the "hard coating" they are applying at the factory?

Ericson38 11-25-2021 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by Battouter (Post 17807981)
been trying to search for an answer for years. so has anyone figured out what the "hard coating" they are applying at the factory?

That would be a good thing to know ! Its not plastic wrap, and its not clear spar varnish with UV filters.

Alfnado 03-10-2022 12:51 PM

I hate to resurrect this thread but I’m concerned about frying the frunk module. Can someone confirm that simply disconnecting the battery is enough? Thanks!

myw 03-10-2022 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Alfnado (Post 18021764)
I hate to resurrect this thread but I’m concerned about frying the frunk module. Can someone confirm that simply disconnecting the battery is enough? Thanks!

you can always remove + unplug the module to guarantee no issues after the headlamp fix.

Pbrad 03-12-2022 06:28 PM

Just used the Sylvania Kit.
Didn't need to remove headlights
comes with a protective coating at the end.

Looks great, very happy

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cf4beffb2e.jpg


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