View Poll Results: did YOUR car suffer an IMS failure
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IMS failure for your 997 car, Y or N? tell us (yr, 997.1, .2, m96, m97, failure mode)
#182
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yeah, but this doesn't make up for many 996 owners who got "the shaft"
I changed the oil in my 03 996 on Sunday. I cut open the filter to find small pieces of black plastic that look to be seal material. My car is at my indy as I type this for a LN IMS retrofit. Better to be safe than really sorry, and broke.
I changed the oil in my 03 996 on Sunday. I cut open the filter to find small pieces of black plastic that look to be seal material. My car is at my indy as I type this for a LN IMS retrofit. Better to be safe than really sorry, and broke.
#183
My '05 997.1 had an RMS leak at about 6000 miles.
Really no big deal, for me at least ... I mean it's a gasket. The gasket started to leak drips so the dealer put in a new gasket while I read a news magazine in the waiting room and it never dripped oil again.
My second 997.1, an '06, did not have an RMS leak before I sold it at something-thousand miles.
It's a gasket ...no BFD to me.
Really no big deal, for me at least ... I mean it's a gasket. The gasket started to leak drips so the dealer put in a new gasket while I read a news magazine in the waiting room and it never dripped oil again.
My second 997.1, an '06, did not have an RMS leak before I sold it at something-thousand miles.
It's a gasket ...no BFD to me.
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#187
yeah, but this doesn't make up for many 996 owners who got "the shaft"
I changed the oil in my 03 996 on Sunday. I cut open the filter to find small pieces of black plastic that look to be seal material. My car is at my indy as I type this for a LN IMS retrofit. Better to be safe than really sorry, and broke.
I changed the oil in my 03 996 on Sunday. I cut open the filter to find small pieces of black plastic that look to be seal material. My car is at my indy as I type this for a LN IMS retrofit. Better to be safe than really sorry, and broke.
#191
Has there been any real issue with the LN IMS replacement failing (after time) or is that pretty much considered a fix that will last the life of the engine? Or as mentioned previously, something that should be considered to replace every 50k miles?
I'm searching for a 06-08 S but the thought of a 20k engine repair (even at 1-5% odds) is frightening. I could foot the bill but I'd never hear the end of it from the wife.
Even if there was some standard that Porsche would pay for half, or whatever - at least something that could be planned for.
I'm searching for a 06-08 S but the thought of a 20k engine repair (even at 1-5% odds) is frightening. I could foot the bill but I'd never hear the end of it from the wife.
Even if there was some standard that Porsche would pay for half, or whatever - at least something that could be planned for.
#193
I'm searching for a 06-08 S
but the thought of a 20k engine repair (even at 1-5% odds) is frightening. I could foot the bill but I'd never hear the end of it from the wife.
Even if there was some standard that Porsche would pay for half, or whatever - at least something that could be planned for.
#194
That said, these are mechanical parts, and as such subject to outliers and defects. LN can't help it if these engines are designed such that failure of a single bearing is sufficient to cause sudden and catastrophic damage. They also can't be privy to every installation...whether an engine is already loaded with metallic debris from failing internals, that will find its way into the open LN bearing and chew it to pieces...or whether an installer follows meticulous protocol or mandhandles the job. All we can say is that at present, the LN bearing is surely the best best going.
And that said, the problem is that a directive to change the bearing every so-many miles is not an effecacious protocol, because these bearings (including the LN) seem to fail suddenly rather than wear-out gradually. Complicating the issue further is that their IMS Guardian recognises only ferrous debris, and the single-race LN bearing until recently had a plastic ball cage...which is what failed in the one case LN could determine the precise cause.
The labour to inspect and/or change the bearing is such that for those who are not DIY guys, it tends to get done in concert with a clutch overhaul. And for those of us who do not mistreat the clutch, that really isn't an every-50K-mile proposition...in fact, in all my years with so-called performance autos, I've never had to replace a clutch, even at upwards of 150K miles. "Thankfully" the previous owner of my 997 was murder on the clutch, so it was about 50% gone at 30K. My IMS bearing was fine, but I put in the LN replacement anyway. Now I'm thinking perhaps I jumped the gun...should've perhaps borne with the stiff clutch pedal a while longer, in time to get the revised LN bearing with the steel cage, and a Guardian.
Or perhaps I need to either sell the car or write myself a scrip for Prozac