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Old 07-12-2017, 07:06 AM
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2008 C2S - CORRECTION: Only the Rear and IMS "seals" were replaced, not the bearing. The dealership noticed oil leakage at 13,336 miles in March 2013 and replaced both seals.
Old 07-12-2017, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TV911
2006 997 C2 Cabriolet 84,000 miles. No issues.

Is there any way to tell whether I have the smaller or the larger bearing without performing surgery? The car was built in January, 2006.

Hello TV911, look at your engine number stamped near the bottom edge and visible by looking under the left side of your car. I believe that if the number starts with M96... it has the smaller bearing and if it starts with M97... it has the larger bearing.
Old 07-12-2017, 04:57 PM
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No issues.
2006 997.1 C4S Cab, 108,000 mi.
Old 07-12-2017, 09:38 PM
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"Hello TV911, look at your engine number stamped near the bottom edge and visible by looking under the left side of your car. I believe that if the number starts with M96... it has the smaller bearing and if it starts with M97... it has the larger bearing."

WRONG! Not even going to say why at this point. When I say "I believe" in discussing something with my boss , I get get shut down very quickly until I come back and know the facts
Old 07-12-2017, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sporty
"Hello TV911, look at your engine number stamped near the bottom edge and visible by looking under the left side of your car. I believe that if the number starts with M96... it has the smaller bearing and if it starts with M97... it has the larger bearing."

WRONG! Not even going to say why at this point. When I say "I believe" in discussing something with my boss , I get get shut down very quickly until I come back and know the facts

Well 'Sporty', I stand corrected and apologize for not confirming the info.


With that said, man up 'Sporty' and let all of know the correct way to determine the bearing size. Saying "Not even going to say why..." is just...
Old 07-12-2017, 11:12 PM
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Ok ok Harv. I just get frustrated because this m96/m97 is a very common misconception along with 'all 2005's have the smaller bearing' (not so, good chance those with build date Feb/March 2005 and on have the larger more robust bearing with almost no failure rates. However that is not 100% true, but as close to a valid generalization that one can make. Some m96s have the larger bearing, i know this as a fact because mine with a build date of 03/5 is an m96 with the big bearing - visually identified. I am unsure, however, if some m97s can have the smaller bearing -perhaps someone else can chime in. If you do a search on this thread and others here on Rennlist it is all discussed in detail several times by some knowledgeable individuals. Sorry if I was a little testy - long day at work
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Originally Posted by Sporty
Ok ok Harv. I just get frustrated because this m96/m97 is a very common misconception along with 'all 2005's have the smaller bearing' (not so, good chance those with build date Feb/March 2005 and on have the larger more robust bearing with almost no failure rates. However that is not 100% true, but as close to a valid generalization that one can make. Some m96s have the larger bearing, i know this as a fact because mine with a build date of 03/5 is an m96 with the big bearing - visually identified. I am unsure, however, if some m97s can have the smaller bearing -perhaps someone else can chime in. If you do a search on this thread and others here on Rennlist it is all discussed in detail several times by some knowledgeable individuals. Sorry if I was a little testy - long day at work

No problem. Thank you for the info.
Old 07-15-2017, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tapper56
2006 911S with 18K, No IMS issues.
11 yr old car with 18k... man, drive that thing! Fellow NoVA resident - do you ever go to Great Falls Cars & Coffee?
Old 07-19-2017, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TV911
2006 997 C2 Cabriolet 84,000 miles. No issues.

Is there any way to tell whether I have the smaller or the larger bearing without performing surgery? The car was built in January, 2006.
If the center nut of the IMS flange is a 13mm hex then it's the old style bearing. If it's the 22mm nut then it's the new larger bearing.
Old 07-19-2017, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by street rod
If the center nut of the IMS flange is a 13mm hex then it's the old style bearing. If it's the 22mm nut then it's the new larger bearing.
Thanks, but to see the IMS flange I have to drop the transmission, right?
Old 07-19-2017, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sporty
"Hello TV911, look at your engine number stamped near the bottom edge and visible by looking under the left side of your car. I believe that if the number starts with M96... it has the smaller bearing and if it starts with M97... it has the larger bearing."

WRONG! Not even going to say why at this point. When I say "I believe" in discussing something with my boss , I get get shut down very quickly until I come back and know the facts
Thanks Sporty and HarveyMushman for your help. If I understand correctly, the M97 is 3.8 liters. I have a 3.6 liter engine. Did I miss something?
Old 07-31-2017, 05:31 PM
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Question IMS bearing fail - 2006 997 w/ 32K miles and otherwise in mint condition!

Now what??? Engine is just before pulling a grenade according to my Porsche mechanic, who literally showed me the metal in my oil and filter. It was shining like flakes of silver. Made me want to puke.

Does anyone have a recommendation other than the obvious "Go buy a new motor" ??

Thank you very much..

New member.

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Old 07-31-2017, 05:33 PM
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Start pricing LS crates and swap kits.
Old 07-31-2017, 05:34 PM
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...btw - so sorry to hear that. I would immediately vomit if I got that news from my mechanic. What triggered your visit to the shop?


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