View Poll Results: did YOUR car suffer an IMS failure
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IMS failure for your 997 car, Y or N? tell us (yr, 997.1, .2, m96, m97, failure mode)
#736
#737
Just a word from a person that recently had an IMS failure. I have an early '05 Boxster (2.7 w/small bearing and I'm the original owner) and mine failed a couple of weeks ago (21K miles). Three years ago I installed the LN Spin on Filter and Magnetic Drain Plug. For the last seven years I've cut my filters open and have NEVER seen any metal. This April... 1,900 miles ago, I changed the oil with clean filter and nothing on my drain plug...no problem...right...wrong! Three weeks ago I had a catastrophic IMS failure...no warning...zip...zero!! This design from Porsche sucks...period. You can try to rationalize it away (I did) and think you won't have a problem by saying things like: "I check my oil"..."I drive it hard"..."I use special oil"..."I don't drive it at night, or when the moon is full"...etc. but the truth is with these IMS bearings "you either pay me now, or pay me later"!
Thanks for letting me vent a little.
Thanks for letting me vent a little.
#738
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Just a word from a person that recently had an IMS failure. I have an early '05 Boxster (2.7 w/small bearing and I'm the original owner) and mine failed a couple of weeks ago (21K miles). Three years ago I installed the LN Spin on Filter and Magnetic Drain Plug. For the last seven years I've cut my filters open and have NEVER seen any metal. This April... 1,900 miles ago, I changed the oil with clean filter and nothing on my drain plug...no problem...right...wrong! Three weeks ago I had a catastrophic IMS failure...no warning...zip...zero!! This design from Porsche sucks...period. You can try to rationalize it away (I did) and think you won't have a problem by saying things like: "I check my oil"..."I drive it hard"..."I use special oil"..."I don't drive it at night, or when the moon is full"...etc. but the truth is with these IMS bearings "you either pay me now, or pay me later"!
Thanks for letting me vent a little.
Thanks for letting me vent a little.
The advantage to the really early small double row bearing is that it was robust enough to start shedding ferrous debris while still functioning and by checking your filter for metal debris, you could tell when you were on the verge of failure. It was this bearing design for which he developed his IMS Guardian for the 996 and 986. It was essentially a magnetic fork with a warning light on the dashboard and once it collected enough ferrous debris on the fork to connect the two forks, it would illuminate the warning light.
With the 987 and 997s (except the Turbo & GT cars), the smaller bearing is just a crap-shoot as to if and when it might fail. If I owned a small bearing 2005 or 2006 I would proactively install The IMS Solution as it's a much better design. For those of us with the larger bearings, there's not much we can do but pull the seal from the IMS bearing and allow it to get splash lubrication by sitting in oil. The sealed bearing design is not a good one for it's purpose as the bearing seal allows some oil in to wash out the grease, but not enough to be a good lubricant for the bearing.
Let us know what you decide to do with your Boxster. I think either here or in the 6speed Marketplace there is someone selling a used Boxster motor which might save you some money if your plan is to get your low-mileage car back on the road. The better solution, if the car is really nice or has some unique options and you plan to keep it, is to get an upgraded motor for RND that has the Nickasil cylinders, IMS Solution, and other upgrades pre-installed during the rebuild process.
#739
Thanks for the word Pete. Actually Jake has my car now and is installing the IMS Solution. "The Guardian" is an a great idea and is called a "Chip Detector" in helicopter transmissions...if that light comes on and your in the air you need to land now. I've seen the helicopter chip detectors and all they are charged screens (positive and negative) in the flow of the oil. When they get shorted out with metal particles the light turns on. Simple but efective.
#742
997 with early production date
I have 2005 997 with a m96 engine with a fairly early serial number (04075) and I was wondering if the ims bearing could be the replaceable kind. Unfortunately I just replaced the clutch and wasn't aware of the ims issue. There's 56k miles on the cars and it gets driven several times a week.
So the production date on the door says 10/04. That's quite early and most likely has the smaller bearing. I think the best thing to do is change it out every clutch change. The mileage just turned 58k and my clutch is only a year old. My mechanic told me not to worry about it and to enjoy my car. Lol
#743
Mine was built in 11/2004 (WP0AB299X5S741487). I bought it a month ago and was told the IMS was taken care of when it went in for service back in 2008 at Porsche in Naples, FL Would this be accurate? Is there a way for my local dealer to pull records showing the IMS being replaced?
#744
I'm sure there would be a record of the ims bearing change performed at a major dealer like Naples. Definitely worth a call to the dealership. I guess if that's true, it just further proves my point that early 997.1's have the smaller bearing that can be switched out fairly easily. (My engine is even an M96). In some ways it makes these early 05's quite desirable because we can enjoy a 997 with a replaceable brand new aftermarket bearing of our choosing. 1-2 grand for the switch out every 25 thousand miles or so is a heck of deal compared to 15 grand for a new engine.
#747
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#750
Just a word from a person that recently had an IMS failure. I have an early '05 Boxster (2.7 w/small bearing and I'm the original owner) and mine failed a couple of weeks ago (21K miles). Three years ago I installed the LN Spin on Filter and Magnetic Drain Plug. For the last seven years I've cut my filters open and have NEVER seen any metal. This April... 1,900 miles ago, I changed the oil with clean filter and nothing on my drain plug...no problem...right...wrong! Three weeks ago I had a catastrophic IMS failure...no warning...zip...zero!!