Considering an 05 Carrera S
10-07-2010, 10:34 AM
#1
Considering an 05 Carrera S
I just sold my 996 and am looking to upgrade. I found an Atals Gray/Sea Blue 05 Carrera S that is fully loaded. Nav, Sport Chrono, PASM, power seats, dimming mirrors, BOSE, 6 disc, 19" Sport Classic Wheels, etc.
It has 24,300 miles on it and 5 months ago it had the entire engine replaced for a cost of $15,000 thanks to the IMS issue. This can either be seen as a good thing or a bad thing.
The condition if the car is "average" - it has low miles but it looks like it has a lot more. It needs a thorough cleaning and detailing. Seat bolster on the drivers side has a lot of wear. Some normal washing scratches and a ding over the rear fender. Windshield has a rock chip at the bottom which will likely spread and crack (not a big deal since insurance covers this).
The car is priced right (under $50,000), but the engine replacement seems like a red flag for me. Sure it has a 2 year warranty, which I'll have to double check and make sure is transferrable, but I have a feeling if I decide to sell this car in a year or two that it would work against me. I'm told this is a 2008 engine and it's upgraded, but from reading on here I see that the 2008s still have some IMS failures.
Thoughts?
- Anthony
It has 24,300 miles on it and 5 months ago it had the entire engine replaced for a cost of $15,000 thanks to the IMS issue. This can either be seen as a good thing or a bad thing.
The condition if the car is "average" - it has low miles but it looks like it has a lot more. It needs a thorough cleaning and detailing. Seat bolster on the drivers side has a lot of wear. Some normal washing scratches and a ding over the rear fender. Windshield has a rock chip at the bottom which will likely spread and crack (not a big deal since insurance covers this).
The car is priced right (under $50,000), but the engine replacement seems like a red flag for me. Sure it has a 2 year warranty, which I'll have to double check and make sure is transferrable, but I have a feeling if I decide to sell this car in a year or two that it would work against me. I'm told this is a 2008 engine and it's upgraded, but from reading on here I see that the 2008s still have some IMS failures.
Thoughts?
- Anthony
10-07-2010, 11:00 AM
#2
There are a lot of good examples of cars in that price range, I wouldn't jump on this one. I just bought an 06C2S for $52k, it had a sticker of 104k with tons of options and 21k miles I thought the IMS issues were 3.6L engine related not the 3.8 and 06 should keep you clear in most cases of the IMS issue
10-07-2010, 11:03 AM
#3
Burning Brakes
There are a lot of good examples of cars in that price range, I wouldn't jump on this one. I just bought an 06C2S for $52k, it had a sticker of 104k with tons of options and 21k miles I thought the IMS issues were 3.6L engine related not the 3.8 and 06 should keep you clear in most cases of the IMS issue
to have a few skeletons in its closet.
10-07-2010, 11:09 AM
#5
make sure to investigate to ensure the replacement engine has the updated IMS, which is likely does.
Other stuff seems cosmetic and easily addressed. Possibly a sign of neglect, but these cars can take it. Could be attractive at the right price
Other stuff seems cosmetic and easily addressed. Possibly a sign of neglect, but these cars can take it. Could be attractive at the right price
10-07-2010, 11:15 AM
#6
If I'm reading that first post correctly, is the 06 Carrera S a 3.8 and not a 3.6?
Edit - didn't realize all 997 Carrera S models had a 3.8 and not the 3.6.
Edit - didn't realize all 997 Carrera S models had a 3.8 and not the 3.6.
Last edited by adg44; 10-07-2010 at 11:20 AM. Reason: updated
10-07-2010, 11:17 AM
#7
The person selling said car is out of town for a few days so it gives me some time to think about it.
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10-07-2010, 02:59 PM
#9
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or you can go 996 GT3
10-07-2010, 03:18 PM
#11
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+ one positive for the new motor
10-07-2010, 04:22 PM
#13
I have a new engine in my 2005 S and I'm thrilled. 500 miles on the engine. 37,000 everywhere else. What's not to like? It's not like these are collector cars.
Talk to the dealer where the car has been serviced. Get the history. If Porsche did the work and warranty then it will transfer to you. It stays with the car. All the records stay with the VIN if a Porsche dealer does the work.
If the rest of the car has been mechanically neglected, then worry. If it's been maintained properly and the engine was replaced as a warranty issues then you should be fine.
Get a PPI.
Talk to the dealer where the car has been serviced. Get the history. If Porsche did the work and warranty then it will transfer to you. It stays with the car. All the records stay with the VIN if a Porsche dealer does the work.
If the rest of the car has been mechanically neglected, then worry. If it's been maintained properly and the engine was replaced as a warranty issues then you should be fine.
Get a PPI.
10-07-2010, 04:37 PM
#14
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It all depends what you're looking for...
An 05 C2 with engine replaced is a MUCH BETTER bet than another 05 that hasn't had the engine replaced that has the risk of IMS failure. Now, is the 05 with engine replacement is better than an 06? that's debatable.
05 engine has less miles on it and probably all with latest engine parts... and I'd say probably more reliable than an 06 (engine wise), also if the 06 is not CPO, you're getting warranty on the 05 but not on 06. So, 05 is a better buy.
On the other hand, the 06 is one year newer, and not having the engine replacement on the title, makes it a better car for re-sell.
So, if you are planning to keep the car long, 05 is a better car... if you are planning to move into 991, or some other car within the next 2-3 years, then 06 *might* have a better re-sell value.
An 05 C2 with engine replaced is a MUCH BETTER bet than another 05 that hasn't had the engine replaced that has the risk of IMS failure. Now, is the 05 with engine replacement is better than an 06? that's debatable.
05 engine has less miles on it and probably all with latest engine parts... and I'd say probably more reliable than an 06 (engine wise), also if the 06 is not CPO, you're getting warranty on the 05 but not on 06. So, 05 is a better buy.
On the other hand, the 06 is one year newer, and not having the engine replacement on the title, makes it a better car for re-sell.
So, if you are planning to keep the car long, 05 is a better car... if you are planning to move into 991, or some other car within the next 2-3 years, then 06 *might* have a better re-sell value.
10-07-2010, 04:47 PM
#15
Drifting
If the car is in average condition and showing cosmetic wear do you think the previous owner was proactive in maintenance? Having a new engine is great, but what else are you going to find? This is still a buyers market so take your time and find the car that suits your needs without making major concessions. Good Luck.