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FriedEgg 04-03-2010 02:53 PM

993 C2S vs 997 CS?
 
Seems like there are many in this forum who have extensive seat time in 993's. I currently have a 997CS and drove a friend's 993C2S yesterday. Being that it is not my car, I didn't want to push it hard and was not really able to assess its abilities.

I now have thoughts on trading in for one, but just can't wrap my head around the cost. I would probably have to give up my 997 + $5k for a 993C2S...which logically doesn't quite make sense. It is a bit more involving and feels more special, but tough to quantify. What a brief test drive doesn't tell me is the long term ownership prospect. As a fairweather weekend car, what would you do?

Tone 04-03-2010 03:48 PM

I think only 4-5K/yr 993s were produced as opposed to 5x that on the 997s. So the 993 will ways be in more limited SUPPLY. 993s have also withstood the test of time & considered highly desireable so DEMAND is relatively high. I sold my 95 993 for 31K to a friend in 2005. The car is today still worth about 31K. My purchased new 2006 997S has dropped from 90K to 50K in 4 years and will continue to.
In short it's not about the $$. If it's an investment/resale only, buy the 993.

Driving: they're both very different cars. Both awesome in their own way. Drive both, see what you like better or find a way to buy both! Cheers

ADias 04-03-2010 05:04 PM

A 997 is a much better car than a 993.

At Law 04-03-2010 05:14 PM

The 993 and 997 are worlds apart.

The 993 is a good looking classic sports car, however, you are going to have
a lot more picadelos to deal with than the 997.

In my opinion, the 997 brings all the qualities of the 993 (including looks)
into a reliable and better overall performing performance car.

Ideally, a person should have a 993, a 997, and a 997 GT3.

ADias 04-03-2010 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by At Law (Post 7452173)
... Ideally, a person should have a 993, a 997, and a 997 GT3.

If one likes to deal with multiple cars the list is:

'73 911RS
997.2 S PDK
997.2 RS

JM993 04-03-2010 06:28 PM

Try a NB 993. IMHO it drives even better than a C2S (a bit more nimble, with less understeer) and is more reasonably priced. FWIW, there is no "better" between the 997 and 993, only different. They are both great cars. The only thing I'd add is that in my 12 years of 993 ownership, my car has been extremely reliable.

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Joe

FriedEgg 04-03-2010 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by ADias (Post 7452179)
If one likes to deal with multiple cars the list is:

'73 911RS
997.2 S PDK
997.2 RS

Agree on the 73' RS. I'd drop the 997.2 PDK and maybe the 7.2 RS and replace both with a 7.2 GT3. Have to add a turbo to be complete. That'll have to be a 965 3.6 for me!

FriedEgg 04-03-2010 06:59 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. I may just add a well sorted 964 C2 for $25k to get my aircooled fix.

At Law 04-03-2010 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by jmarch (Post 7452316)
FWIW, there is no "better" between the 997 and 993, only different. They are both great cars.

I completely agree with you. I should have used the word
different instead of better.

I am a huge fan of 993's and I am sure I will add one to the
stall one of these years.

alexb76 04-05-2010 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by FriedEgg (Post 7451962)
Seems like there are many in this forum who have extensive seat time in 993's. I currently have a 997CS and drove a friend's 993C2S yesterday. Being that it is not my car, I didn't want to push it hard and was not really able to assess its abilities.

I now have thoughts on trading in for one, but just can't wrap my head around the cost. I would probably have to give up my 997 + $5k for a 993C2S...which logically doesn't quite make sense. It is a bit more involving and feels more special, but tough to quantify. What a brief test drive doesn't tell me is the long term ownership prospect. As a fairweather weekend car, what would you do?

Obviously most people on this forum are gonna suggest 997 and if you posted the same in 993 forum, the answer would be different.

I think 993 at its time WAS THE BEST car on the road, and a lot ahead of its competition. 997 today is amongst the best, but not by as large of a margin as 993.

Comparing the two is almost comparing Apple to Oranges though. I believe it all comes down to your purpose/goal. 997 is by far the better car for DD and track/street dual usage, more reliable, more modern, more comfortable.

However, if you're gonna use the car only for weekend cruising, occasional tracking, and if you got something for air cooled engines... then 993 is probably a better, more classic car, that may go up in value if you plan to pass it to your son! :)

CamsPorsche 04-05-2010 03:02 PM

I almost made deals on two separate 993's and in the end couldn't do it. I'm a stickler for reliability and no hassles and after speaking with mates who owned 993's it made sense to nab my 997. In my opinion those who own 993's do not daily drive them and my ownership was based on daily driving.

Sexier car is the 993 but the 997 is a very close 2nd.

OldGuy 04-05-2010 06:46 PM

I had a 993 TT. The C2S is more a compatriot of the 993TT, they are more on the same playing field.
The 993 C2 does not have the same power or prowess as the almost 400hp 997.2.
I would like a 993 C2S in the garage too, but since I can only have one the 997.2 is the best all arounder
you can get in the GT3/TT and PDK world in any series (993/996/997/997.2) If you are choosing a weekender then one of the GT3s would be cool. The 996 GT3 is becoming a real bargain and the 996 TT is a GREAT bargain, in the $45-45K range.

pjl 04-05-2010 07:12 PM

Nothing can compare to the feeling my (non-S) 993 had at the time I owned it. What a great car, from the looks to the feel - right down to the sound of the door closing. It was essentially a perfect car.

But it just became dated, as it must. Frustrating and depressing to be sure. So while I don't imagine any car can replicate the feeling the 993 offered when it was the state-of-the-art, 911s are still 911s, and they are the greatest car going. Bar none.

So if you're into performance, the 997s is the way to go. But if you want nostalgia, feel, true 911 spirit, and are fine with being 100+ horsepower behind current non-turbo cars, 993s cannot disappoint.

BillJ 04-05-2010 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by pjl (Post 7457507)
true 911 spirit

So sick of hearing this. And i owned one.

OldGuy 04-05-2010 07:28 PM

I dont have ANY problem finding the TRUE 911 SPIRIT in the 997. Wether it was a 997.1 GT3 or the 997.2 PDK


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