2009 for close to invoice?
10-17-2008, 12:21 AM
#34
Did the 09 you test drove have sport PASM & LSD? What was the biggest difference between that and your Cayman? (besides HP)
10-17-2008, 03:24 PM
#35
The Cayman and 911 just feel so different. They are both really good, but the Cayman is so quick to rotate. The 911 feels much more planted and comfy. I have an RS4 for my "planted and comfy", but if I could keep the RS4 and add a new 997S, I'd do it in an instant. I bought the Cayman to give me that edgy, sports-car feel I don't get with the RS4. It's by no means a bad car, but the new 997 is REALLY good. Go drive one and you'll see what I mean.
10-17-2008, 11:48 PM
#36
It had PASM, but not LSD (i.e. PASM Sport). The ride felt the same as my old 997S (2006) and MUCH better than my Cayman.
The Cayman and 911 just feel so different. They are both really good, but the Cayman is so quick to rotate. The 911 feels much more planted and comfy. I have an RS4 for my "planted and comfy", but if I could keep the RS4 and add a new 997S, I'd do it in an instant. I bought the Cayman to give me that edgy, sports-car feel I don't get with the RS4. It's by no means a bad car, but the new 997 is REALLY good. Go drive one and you'll see what I mean.
The Cayman and 911 just feel so different. They are both really good, but the Cayman is so quick to rotate. The 911 feels much more planted and comfy. I have an RS4 for my "planted and comfy", but if I could keep the RS4 and add a new 997S, I'd do it in an instant. I bought the Cayman to give me that edgy, sports-car feel I don't get with the RS4. It's by no means a bad car, but the new 997 is REALLY good. Go drive one and you'll see what I mean.
I was going to consider a CPO 06 - 08 997 but I really love the 09's.
10-18-2008, 10:18 AM
#37
I should have stated it more clearly - it had PASM, but not Sport PASM (which comes with the LSD). A lot of buyers, believe it or not, want the comfy ride, etc. A lot of 911s sold at my local dealership are Tip/PDK and have lots of comfy options. Personally, I want a stripped out, houndstooth interior, no extra frills/sensors/etc. 911 that I can buy for $70K w/the 3.8L engine and big brakes.
10-20-2008, 11:38 PM
#38
I should have stated it more clearly - it had PASM, but not Sport PASM (which comes with the LSD). A lot of buyers, believe it or not, want the comfy ride, etc. A lot of 911s sold at my local dealership are Tip/PDK and have lots of comfy options. Personally, I want a stripped out, houndstooth interior, no extra frills/sensors/etc. 911 that I can buy for $70K w/the 3.8L engine and big brakes.
10-21-2008, 12:22 AM
#39
Race Director
My 09 Carrera S has PDK with the Sport (lowered) PASM. Let me know what you want to know.
10-21-2008, 07:13 AM
#40
10-23-2008, 09:50 AM
#41
There's just so much talk about how the Cayman has such superior handling to the Carrera and that with a stronger engine & LSD the Cayman would run rings around the 911. That Porsche intentionally under-engineers the car so as not to cut into 911 sales and the only reason the 911 is so sought after and sells for what it does, is due strictly to it's status as an icon. How much of that is true and how much is just talk? I wonder though, if the 997.2 was a brand new car, never heard of before and just released this year by a new company no one ever heard of before, how would it be received?
10-23-2008, 10:04 AM
#42
There's just so much talk about how the Cayman has such superior handling to the Carrera and that with a stronger engine & LSD the Cayman would run rings around the 911. That Porsche intentionally under-engineers the car so as not to cut into 911 sales and the only reason the 911 is so sought after and sells for what it does, is due strictly to it's status as an icon. How much of that is true and how much is just talk? I wonder though, if the 997.2 was a brand new car, never heard of before and just released this year by a new company no one ever heard of before, how would it be received?
Anyway, I love the 911 and overall prefer it to the Cayman.
10-23-2008, 11:21 AM
#43
Instructor
The Dow will drop below 8000 today, over the next few days/week - trillions of dollars in credit default swaps have to settle, more banks will fail, and the US is about to elect a neo-stalinist President. And you are asking whether prices on a completely non-essential item might soften over that time period?
Cheer up my friend, Its not all doom and gloom. a standard 997 C2 S over here in the UK has a list of $116k vs. $86k in the US, two weeks ago with exchange rates it was over $130k. Make a car in Germany, ship it a quarter of the distance to the UK rather than the US and magically its price increases $30k. Did I mention it was $10 a gallon in the UK for fuel ?
Sorry, not meant to be a financial assessment, a car's is worth what you are willing to pay, and that is different for all of us. Personally with all the current doom and gloom, looking at my nice new 997, cheers me up and is well worth every penny ( sorry cent).
Al.
10-23-2008, 08:54 PM
#44
There's just so much talk about how the Cayman has such superior handling to the Carrera and that with a stronger engine & LSD the Cayman would run rings around the 911. That Porsche intentionally under-engineers the car so as not to cut into 911 sales and the only reason the 911 is so sought after and sells for what it does, is due strictly to it's status as an icon. How much of that is true and how much is just talk? I wonder though, if the 997.2 was a brand new car, never heard of before and just released this year by a new company no one ever heard of before, how would it be received?