Do I need this? (997 turbo)
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Do I need this? (997 turbo)
I posted this topic on the 007 turbo forum earlier.
I've had a 996 then a 993C4S that I adored. I've had a 2007 997C2S for about 8 months. I do not miss my 993 because the 997 is so much more capable, comfortable and almost as pretty. This car is my daily driver.
I am toying with the idea of getting a 997 turbo instead. I understand that I have likely not come close to exporing the capabilities of my C2S but.....
I am infatuated with the horsepower/torque of the turbo and love the idea of having the 993 engine block instead of the new carrera engine.
Am I nuts?
I've had a 996 then a 993C4S that I adored. I've had a 2007 997C2S for about 8 months. I do not miss my 993 because the 997 is so much more capable, comfortable and almost as pretty. This car is my daily driver.
I am toying with the idea of getting a 997 turbo instead. I understand that I have likely not come close to exporing the capabilities of my C2S but.....
I am infatuated with the horsepower/torque of the turbo and love the idea of having the 993 engine block instead of the new carrera engine.
Am I nuts?
Last edited by Randy V; 04-26-2007 at 03:32 PM.
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I had a 993 and always told myself that my next car would be a 997TT.
Then the 997S came out and I bought one. Now I have a club coupe with X51 option. Tried the track a couple of times in the 997S and the thought of upgrading to a 997TT has totally disappeared. It has nothing to do with the money factor as you can see I have ordered a CTT. But I feel that our 997S is so capable that I don't think the extra performance of 997TT will do me any good at all. Of course for people that have better driving skills than me, or they have the road to use the extra power, then the 997TT is suitable as it is to me the gold standard in "super car for daily use".
Then the 997S came out and I bought one. Now I have a club coupe with X51 option. Tried the track a couple of times in the 997S and the thought of upgrading to a 997TT has totally disappeared. It has nothing to do with the money factor as you can see I have ordered a CTT. But I feel that our 997S is so capable that I don't think the extra performance of 997TT will do me any good at all. Of course for people that have better driving skills than me, or they have the road to use the extra power, then the 997TT is suitable as it is to me the gold standard in "super car for daily use".
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probably don't "need it" but if you want it you should get it.
#7
None of us "need" the p-car. Getting from point A to point B can be done in anything with 4 wheels and an engine (or 2 wheels and an engine, perhaps you could even forego the engine). Nonetheless, if we are talking about a "run of the mill" S vs. a turbo it's hard to rationalize the later. That being said, I am seriously considering the turbo over the C4S I'm still finding it a bit hard to justify, being that for the price of the turbo I could buy a C4S and get my wife a fairly nice ride as well (in a lease situation).
But... theres nothing like the feeling of a huge torque rush. As I posted on the 997TT forum, I'm considering the C4S as a daily driver, plus a car for the wife - plus a long term factory five cobra big block build for the days when I just want to launch myself into oblivion.
But... theres nothing like the feeling of a huge torque rush. As I posted on the 997TT forum, I'm considering the C4S as a daily driver, plus a car for the wife - plus a long term factory five cobra big block build for the days when I just want to launch myself into oblivion.
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One thing that plays into this is Porsche's failure to deliver a 'special' C4S package. When I ordered/bought my '04 C4S Cab, it was a special package vehicle, equipped with many options from the baseline forward as standard. The reflector across the back is just one small indicator of the model.
The 997 C4S does not have anything of the sort. Yes, it's a great Porsche, but not like the differential when the 996 C4S was rolled out at that time.
That said, I love the C4S and may keep it, but we ALL have a deep desire for the dark side...I would suspect any of us would be ecstatic driving the 997 TT. Me included.
And that day may come.
In the meantime, I hope Porsche does something to differentiate the C4S in '08, and perhaps something even more meaningful when the '08 Turbo and Turbo Cab show up.
The 997 C4S does not have anything of the sort. Yes, it's a great Porsche, but not like the differential when the 996 C4S was rolled out at that time.
That said, I love the C4S and may keep it, but we ALL have a deep desire for the dark side...I would suspect any of us would be ecstatic driving the 997 TT. Me included.
And that day may come.
In the meantime, I hope Porsche does something to differentiate the C4S in '08, and perhaps something even more meaningful when the '08 Turbo and Turbo Cab show up.
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The question still remains to this day....... How much passion do you have to go to the next level? It is not about the $ amount you spend, it is about feeling comfortable spending the dollars to go to the next level. There are not many "comfortable" people that I know that are successful and there are many that I know that are uncomfortable that are successful.
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Originally Posted by gab997
The question still remains to this day....... How much passion do you have to go to the next level? It is not about the $ amount you spend, it is about feeling comfortable spending the dollars to go to the next level. There are not many "comfortable" people that I know that are successful and there are many that I know that are uncomfortable that are successful.
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I had the same dilemma about whether to move up to a 997TT...
First thing - I couldn't stomach the $50K hit I would take (lose about $25K in depreciation, pay an extra $25K+ for the TT).
Second thing - Where I live (No. VA), I can hardly use the power of my Carrera S, let alone a Turbo without incurring the wrath of the Fairfax County PD.
Third and final thing - I think the GT3 is a much more appealing car when it all comes down to it.
If you do end up moving up, no one here will blame you... It's a sweet ride.
First thing - I couldn't stomach the $50K hit I would take (lose about $25K in depreciation, pay an extra $25K+ for the TT).
Second thing - Where I live (No. VA), I can hardly use the power of my Carrera S, let alone a Turbo without incurring the wrath of the Fairfax County PD.
Third and final thing - I think the GT3 is a much more appealing car when it all comes down to it.
If you do end up moving up, no one here will blame you... It's a sweet ride.
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Sure, you can lose the TT desire after blasting around in a C2S. 'Also works the other way around. Different strokes.
You can even argue that the base Boxster is the best Porscher, and I wouldn't think you're nuts.
Cheapest to buy
You'll worry less about it
2875 lbs
Mid engine
Drops the top at 30mph
Quiet at highway speeds with top down
Sound increadible
Pbly best resale value relative to msrp after 3+ years
Most appealing to population as a whole
Chicks dig it
Tack is in your face
Roadster feel is second to none in the sports car world
You can even argue that the base Boxster is the best Porscher, and I wouldn't think you're nuts.
Cheapest to buy
You'll worry less about it
2875 lbs
Mid engine
Drops the top at 30mph
Quiet at highway speeds with top down
Sound increadible
Pbly best resale value relative to msrp after 3+ years
Most appealing to population as a whole
Chicks dig it
Tack is in your face
Roadster feel is second to none in the sports car world
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Oh yeah, that's what I'm going to do. My S will get traded for a TT with no remorse or hesitation. Besides it's the only way to go if you decide against the extended warrenty.
You only use your Pcar's Hp/Tq for passing anyway, right? Nice to have the handling for near-limit track cornering, but better to have more massive HP for "safe" real-world passing on two lane highways.
Another reason to do it soon is because in a few years Porsche will probably add even more frills and gimmicks to it; right now there's only a silly wing to avoid looking at.
In a few years there might be torpedo-like protuberances on the front spoiler and a big nasty sharkfin on the roof.
You only use your Pcar's Hp/Tq for passing anyway, right? Nice to have the handling for near-limit track cornering, but better to have more massive HP for "safe" real-world passing on two lane highways.
Another reason to do it soon is because in a few years Porsche will probably add even more frills and gimmicks to it; right now there's only a silly wing to avoid looking at.
In a few years there might be torpedo-like protuberances on the front spoiler and a big nasty sharkfin on the roof.