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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG
Well, if I get the TT i'm keeping it. Mind you I said the same thing about the last 3 cars I bought LOL. The longest I had any of the three was 2 years. But really, I'm keeping this one. AT least that's what I'm telling my wife. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
We lead parallel lives.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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hey e55amg,i do the same thing all the time.but with 40k cars..i have an 87 911 thats fun as hell and in great condition in and out.i put 5k into it this year and thought about selling it..well after driving a few 996s and a 993,i have decided to keep it...i have a used car thats a ball to drive and i know the car,which is something good when you dont have a warranty..porsches are costly...good luck with the tt..you'll love it..kkeep it for 10 years and sell it to me..llol..j
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Leader
Don't "trade" it. Sell it.
If you trade it, your dealer will simply detail the car, mark it up 8-15% and put it on their lot.
Translation = you gave up several thousand dollars when you didn't have to.
Don't ever "trade." Always sell it yourself.
That's really broad advice that wouldn't make sense for a lot of people. Here for example the combined tax on a vehicle from a dealer is 13%... since you only pay tax on the difference, even if they were to put it on the lot and mark it up 10% (assume you could also get the same price), you'd come out behind. As was said earlier, people who obsess over the "price" as opposed to the effective difference are making uninformed decisions.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mastiffdog
We lead parallel lives.
I think that can be said about a lot of us here.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Holli82
It is what it is....I don't think that the trade-in value is going to stop the twin turbo from arriving.
I think you're right, but I gotta try!
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Leader
Don't "trade" it. Sell it.
If you trade it, your dealer will simply detail the car, mark it up 8-15% and put it on their lot.
Translation = you gave up several thousand dollars when you didn't have to.
Don't ever "trade." Always sell it yourself.
By selling privately I lose the tax advantage on the new car. Not sure If I can get privately what I'd need to have it make sense.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Hoping for $79k? On a year old car that was $86.7k new? I'd say $65k on trade is fair. We're headed into winter...they have to turn that car over for a profit quickly.

Also, the price for your car is only half the story. Are they coming off MSRP on the TT?
Wow, that was a typo! I was hoping 69-70 not 79K - unless you're offering LOL
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Leader
Don't "trade" it. Sell it.
If you trade it, your dealer will simply detail the car, mark it up 8-15% and put it on their lot.
Translation = you gave up several thousand dollars when you didn't have to.
Don't ever "trade." Always sell it yourself.
Only if [trade price + (trade price * tax rate)] < private party sale price. If you are trading for $65k and your tax rate is 7% (for example), you need to be able to sell it for $70k to make it worthwhile.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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This is also different from state to state in the US. For example, in VA, I pay tax on the full price of the new car, regardless of trade-in.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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are the books referred to in this thread available to the public?
I have a decently optioned 05 cab with 16K miles that I am going to trade on a new GT3 next month and I am wondering what it will bring. It is not an S .
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
Only if [trade price + (trade price * tax rate)] < private party sale price. If you are trading for $65k and your tax rate is 7% (for example), you need to be able to sell it for $70k to make it worthwhile.
here in PA this is not necessarily the case...
I put a $500 deposit on the car i wanted, found a private party buyer (for 40% more than was quoted for trade-in!!!), and brought the buyer to the dealership with me. The dealer took care of all the paperwork and I only paid tax on the difference

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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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A-TT:

In GA you can do that too, but the private buyer will now owe sales tax on their purchase from you (not the case in a private purchase), so this would presumably cut into that 40% margin. Good approach though!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris C.
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In GA you can do that too, but the private buyer will now owe sales tax on their purchase from you (not the case in a private purchase), so this would presumably cut into that 40% margin. Good approach though!
no sales tax on used private party purchases? man, that would be dangerous for me.. may have to move down there
saving tax on a pre-owned Turbo would be something

no such thing in PA, buyer pays same tax new or used

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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Yes, resale tax laws are considerably different from state-to-state and my original advice of "never trade, always sell it yourself" would not hold true in all instances. Sorry - I shouldn't have been so emphatic.
However, even in states where you only pay sales tax on the "difference" between the trade-in value and the new car's price, the math on whether to trade or sell would be easy to calculate. The way most dealers "value" used cars, I would think selling it yourself would net you more in most cases...especially with high-value cars like 997s.
In California they tax you every time you take a deep breath - as opposed to Mass where they tax even the shallow breaths.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Leader
In California they tax you every time you take a deep breath - as opposed to Mass where they tax even the shallow breaths.
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