cyran

Don't worry, not planning on leaving the 997.2 family yet

But, my driving profile has changed in the last year. Was dailying the 911 but that was for a different, more 911 friendly use case. That has changed, so I am toying with the idea of selling, buying a more reasonable daily, then getting a 997.2 S or GTS MT coupe for weekends and track days.

Some basic info:

- 2009 Carrera 4 cab

- ~57k miles

- Notable options are full leather, PDK, sport chrono

- Driver's car but in good shape for the age and miles - no major or noticeable exterior flaws (i.e. scratches, dents), interior also in good shape other than some scratching from previous owner around the driver's side door handle plastic.

- Completely up to date on maintenance, including the major PDK service (both fluids), AWD controller and diffs, etc.

- California car, no rust or other issues. I even took off parts of the exhaust to do plugs and coils and didn't have an issue with a single nut or bolt. Shocking, I know.

- No accidents, clean title, etc.

Given the maintenance and initial purchase price, I am about $56k into this car but don't expect to get it all back. But, I am also willing to eat some of the hit, so don't know what's a reasonable selling price. $52k might be a stretch?

ATX_Native

$45k to $50k

Post some pics!

Edit because I thought it was a coupe at first.

cyran

Thanks - posting this thread made me realize I don't have any photos off my old phone so I will need to work on that...she's beautiful, I promise

groovzilla

As far as Value:
2009 +
C4 +
PDK -
Cab -
57K +

Service records and condition are a huge factor.

I'd say an asking price of $43-$44 would be accurate considering we are approaching the fall/winter

Petza914

$45-$47

cyran

Thanks both. If the value is closer to the mid-40s I'd probably just keep it. I bought in early 2021 for $50k (and then the $$$ for the major services and rear brakes and rotors), so eating nearly $10k in a bit over 2 years would be a tough pill to swallow. I don't dislike this car by any means so it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world!

Petza914

Keep it for a couple more years. Things are recorrecting now post covid and possibly overcorrecting a bit, but 997.2 values will slowly increase over time again, especially the 6-speed ones. If it was a 6-speed it would be worth $5-$7k more

groovzilla

It's always tough to recapture service $$ that you have invested into the car. Same holds true for add ons like suspension/muffler hacks/etc.
That's why the PPI is important as negotiating tool to factor in services or repairs car will need soon.
There's a learning curve when buying - Over time you shop for cars that are well serviced and always keep in mind resale value. Something I learned years ago.
As a 1st time or new buyer, you could care less about resale because it's all new and exciting. Then after time of buying selling many P-cars you learn the game.

bluelines1974

I would perceive 4 as a negative for price, at least when it comes to a base 4 vs a 4S.

groovzilla

I think the total opposite considering the "S" engine is more prone to Bore Scoring ---> The C4 is looking more attractive.
I've owned 3 997 C4S cars. The C4 Base rides/handles just like the C4S - Really can't tell a difference at all. C4S 30hp more and slightly larger brakes not noticable to me at all.

...... And the C4 Base has black gauge faces which I much prefer! Just like the aircooled 911's

ATX_Native

^ x2

I’ve driven a 997.2 C2 and C2S back to back when shopping for mine in 2020.

If I blindfolded someone, I really doubt they would feel the difference in acceleration/shove.

I couldn’t tell and I knew what they were, so even with the bias I couldn’t tell.

The fascination with the S is weird to me, especially since they share the same shell.

However that’s just my opinion.

I would get a 997.2 C2 over a 997.1 C2S, well I actually did.

alfetta

This may help. Auction sales I could find for 997.2 cabs, no turbos. I have a spread sheet of these sale with details and PM me your email and i'll send it to you.


Year Average Sales Average MSRP
2023 $59,322 23 $114,063
2022 $64,575 28 $113,552
2021 $64,696 22 $110,391
2020 $55,272 14 $107,110
2018-19 $44,275 6 $104,785

da Vinci Dan

I love my C4s for winter duties. I think there is a market for snow belt daily drivers. Personally, I would not consider it a negative at all.

groovzilla

And the wide *** looks great too!!