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Old 08-31-2023, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ATX_Native
Same, when looking for a 991 I only considered them with the glass roof.
I don't care for black glass roof - Cuts up the lines/design. Much prefer color matched metal roof
I test drove 2 991's a few years ago - Both silver/black but unfortunately both had the glass roofs.
If a fan of black color the glass roof would blend into design.





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Old 08-31-2023, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by groovzilla
I don't care for black glass roof - Cuts up the lines/design. Much prefer color matched metal roof
I test drove 2 991's a few years ago - Both silver/black but unfortunately both had the glass roofs.
If a fan of black color the glass roof would blend into design.
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Kellen---> Took this photo at the Shell station on 17th & Madison around the corner from my house. Only photo I have

Beautiful. Looking for a type c from my internet sleuthing. Want disc brakes.
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Old 08-31-2023, 05:46 PM
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Beautiful. Looking for a type c from my internet sleuthing. Want disc brakes.
Didn't realize you wanted to be able to stop

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Originally Posted by groovzilla
Didn't realize you wanted to be able to stop
Ha! Haven’t done a deep dive into them but I thought c’s gave you discs all the way around. I’d drive this more than the norm 356 owner likely so would be nice to have some stopping power for all those horses….
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Originally Posted by groovzilla
Thanks everyone - False alarm. 991 friend told me about had the black glass sunroof which I am not a fan of.
Also might miss my 997 too much so decided not to sell at this time.

Sunroofs have never been my thing - weight in the wrong place and never gets used. Especially the all black glass type. If North American 997s had the RoW no-sunroof option, I'd have gone for that.
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Old 09-01-2023, 07:16 PM
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Sunroofs have never been my thing - weight in the wrong place and never gets used. Especially the all black glass type. If North American 997s had the RoW no-sunroof option, I'd have gone for that.
Love having a sunroof. Weight was never a factor on the 356 sunroofs. Motors were tiny....and I can't imagine the 997 sunroof adding much weight.
The 991 glass sunroof is ugly and heavy - Not sure why they would have added that glass as an option because it destroys the design.


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Originally Posted by kellen
Ha! Haven’t done a deep dive into them but I thought c’s gave you discs all the way around. I’d drive this more than the norm 356 owner likely so would be nice to have some stopping power for all those horses….
Some guys used to convert their 356A drum brake cars to disc brakes. Not sure if the original wheels allowed fopr the conversion.


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Originally Posted by groovzilla
Thanks everyone - False alarm. 991 friend told me about had the black glass sunroof which I am not a fan of.
Also might miss my 997 too much so decided not to sell at this time.

Good decision sir!
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Old 09-02-2023, 01:06 PM
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Great decision, and could not agree more about glass sunroofs and the 991s! My Porsche journey over the past three years .....

I bought and sold a '15 911 with glass sunroof, which I found unsightly. Really doesn't compliment the beautiful sloping roof lines of the classic 911 shape. Looked odd. Didn't realize my full dislike until it was too late. Then I bought a '19 911 T, which lacked soul, something I found in other 991s I test drove. There was just something about it that wasn't an enjoyable daily (and it was noisy as heck), but again didn't realize until it was too late.

Finally, I recently bought an '05 997.1 base with chrono package and other goodies. That little "sport" button makes a world of difference. What a blast. A true classic with a lot of the old-school 911 feel and charm, and just a hint of modern Porsche. Sweet spot.





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Originally Posted by swish77

Finally, I recently bought an '05 997.1 base with chrono package and other goodies. That little "sport" button makes a world of difference. What a blast. A true classic with a lot of the old-school 911 feel and charm, and just a hint of modern Porsche. Sweet spot.




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Originally Posted by groovzilla
Original 1953 Pre-A color Jade Green w/tan interior. Bent windshield & sunroof
Car was all original paint and floors. Everything on it was original and untouched. Had it for 2 years then it was on to another 356
Original unmolested Pre-A car like this would probably fetch $375K today

Kellen---> Took this photo at the Shell station on 17th & Madison around the corner from my house. Only photo I have

I can relate.

I had a 55 Speedster and a 55 Emory Outlaw coupe.

Sold both of them for about 20 grand more that I paid but now worth close to 600k for the two.





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Old 09-02-2023, 02:23 PM
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^^Gary Emory was very good friends with Denny Aker owner of Aker's Porsche my 37 year Indy 5 blocks from my house.
At one of the many 356 Bull Sessions here in Seattle every year, Gary Emory explained to me that they painted the engine sheet metal tin in their Outlaws a light grey(Instead of original black) so they could easily find oil leaks.

I miss the 356 days . Was a nice group, very helpful supportive but also extremely **** about condition/originality/etc.
My 1959 356 Super Sunroof was my long timer. All original except the paint which was done at DInk Farmer's in Ukiah Calif. A master painter and known by collectors all over the world.
I got lucky knowing many of the 356 crowd heavily involved in restoration and history of these unique cars.












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Originally Posted by swish77
Great decision, and could not agree more about glass sunroofs and the 991s! My Porsche journey over the past three years .....

I bought and sold a '15 911 with glass sunroof, which I found unsightly. Really doesn't compliment the beautiful sloping roof lines of the classic 911 shape. Looked odd. Didn't realize my full dislike until it was too late. Then I bought a '19 911 T, which lacked soul, something I found in other 991s I test drove. There was just something about it that wasn't an enjoyable daily (and it was noisy as heck), but again didn't realize until it was too late.

Finally, I recently bought an '05 997.1 base with chrono package and other goodies. That little "sport" button makes a world of difference. What a blast. A true classic with a lot of the old-school 911 feel and charm, and just a hint of modern Porsche. Sweet spot.



I love that T. Could you explain the reason you felt the T lacked soul? I get the car is a little bigger.
I've only done short test drives in the 991(2 Manual Transmission 2015's) and didn't notice that much of a difference in drivability or the assisted power steering.



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Very cool.

Yep the 356 bunch is slightly different that the other Porsche crowd!
I first met Gary in 1968 when I bought my 66 911.
We've had the various 356 clubs up to our home on several occasions. The neighbors are always blown away!


About 30 356s parked in front of our home
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