Bore Scored, have Extended Warranty, but...
#16
Track Day
Thread Starter
Really sorry to hear this news. And I'm no Attorney but can understand these warranty companies trying to weasel out. As others have mentioned probably a good idea to get more info on the company and their policy once the engine is inoperable.
*How bad is your oil consumption? Do you have photos of the Bore Score Inspection?
*How bad is your oil consumption? Do you have photos of the Bore Score Inspection?
#18
Rennlist Member
Again very sorry to hear the news of your Bore Scoring.
I have had recent purchase experience with Bore Scope Inspections looking bad, one had a cracked cylinder and passed on 2 997's last year
It's helpful for others that this subject be discussed and if you can post the photos/findings it will be of help to the Forum members who have concerns about Bore Scoring.
Look forward to seeing the photos and report.
All the best.
I have had recent purchase experience with Bore Scope Inspections looking bad, one had a cracked cylinder and passed on 2 997's last year
It's helpful for others that this subject be discussed and if you can post the photos/findings it will be of help to the Forum members who have concerns about Bore Scoring.
Look forward to seeing the photos and report.
All the best.
Last edited by groovzilla; 06-10-2022 at 11:09 PM.
#19
Instructor
#21
Track Day
Thread Starter
Yes, good point. I will try and make the argument that fixing it now will be less expensive than if it gets so bad the car stops running.
#22
Rennlist Member
The hole in the warranty that you noted and Groove highlighted is pretty clear; this is wear (arguably excessive and abnormal, but wear) that is causing oil consumption and decreased compression, both of which are clearly not covered. Fix it now out of pocket or hope it grenades with a root cause to something that's explicitly covered.
Are you feelin' lucky, punk?
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#23
RL Community Team
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Scoring will first show on the cylinder wall, then the piston skirt, then the side of the piston so all of those areas would apply which should be covered.
You're in a bad spot here now though because although the warranty looks like it will cover it once the engine completely fails, the warranty company is now going to tell you that was caused by a preexisting condition that may not be covered based on the other clause about progressive degradation.
I bought a couple aftermarket warranties in my earlier days. Made out good on a Mustang LX my wife had with a blown head gasket and steering rack replacement, lost out on the other one, and haven't bought another in 25 years as the ones that don't go bankrupt during warranty term are a fight to get any money back and some require only certain shops do the work.
Hope this works out ok for you.
You're in a bad spot here now though because although the warranty looks like it will cover it once the engine completely fails, the warranty company is now going to tell you that was caused by a preexisting condition that may not be covered based on the other clause about progressive degradation.
I bought a couple aftermarket warranties in my earlier days. Made out good on a Mustang LX my wife had with a blown head gasket and steering rack replacement, lost out on the other one, and haven't bought another in 25 years as the ones that don't go bankrupt during warranty term are a fight to get any money back and some require only certain shops do the work.
Hope this works out ok for you.
#24
Three Wheelin'
Don't use the oil consumption and compression arguments as they are clearly stated to not be covered and are actually within acceptable oil usage range (per Porsche). Your pistons and block are compromised and are covered as per the first Pp and you re hearing noise indicative of something being wrong - I would think that is the argument/case to be made.
#25
Racer
Best of luck
#26
Track Day
Thread Starter
Don't use the oil consumption and compression arguments as they are clearly stated to not be covered and are actually within acceptable oil usage range (per Porsche). Your pistons and block are compromised and are covered as per the first Pp and you re hearing noise indicative of something being wrong - I would think that is the argument/case to be made.
#27
Rennlist Member
1 qt of oil every 600 miles is significant. Even though the owners manula gives some ridiculously high consumption of 600 miles to the qt, none of our cars burn anywhere near that when they are running properly and tight.
All 6 of my 997's over past 8 years have burned no less than 1 qt of oil per 2500-3000 miles and they all were + 75K miles
I'm guessing the Bore Scoring in your cylinders is not something minor.
All 6 of my 997's over past 8 years have burned no less than 1 qt of oil per 2500-3000 miles and they all were + 75K miles
I'm guessing the Bore Scoring in your cylinders is not something minor.
Last edited by groovzilla; 06-11-2022 at 08:52 PM.
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#29
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[QUOTE=Carreralicious;18192479]Actually, Porsche states burning a quart per 390 miles is normal. 1.6qts per 622 miles translates to around 390 miles per 1 qt of oil.[/QUOTE
I've never heard of a 997 burning that high an oil consumption
600-700 miles per qt is troubling.
1000-1200 miles I'd assume acceptable for high mileage 120K+ miles engine
I've never heard of a 997 burning that high an oil consumption
600-700 miles per qt is troubling.
1000-1200 miles I'd assume acceptable for high mileage 120K+ miles engine
Last edited by groovzilla; 06-12-2022 at 02:35 AM.
#30
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[QUOTE=groovzilla;18192483]I’m not saying it isn’t…just saying that Porsche says it’s normal according to their manual.
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